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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I just read that Zombie had to reshoot all the scenes he filmed with Richard Lynch in Lords of Salem because the actor was near-blind and barely capable of getting through his scenes.&nbsp; I wondered why no mention has been made of him in early reviews for the flick, and I suppose that explains it.</p><p>What I didn&#039;t know was that Zombie replaced him with Andrew Prine -- another great 70s genre actor who&#039;s been off the radar for far too long.&nbsp; Like Tarantino, Zombie has a knack for using great genre actors who have slipped into obscurity and bringing them back to horror fans&#039; attention.</p><p>I&#039;m thinking maybe I&#039;ll send him a list of forgotten actors I&#039;d like to see him use in his next movie.&nbsp; I&#039;m sure I&#039;m not the only one who&#039;d love to see Bruce Abbott show up in a new horror flick.&nbsp; And speaking of Re-Animator actors, why hasn&#039;t he used Jeffrey Combs yet?</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2012 19:33:23 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I like Rob Zombie. His passion for the art is always a pleasure, and I like his music quite a bit too. I personally love his style, it&#039;s very bold in a sense, and benefits the horror genre well. I really enjoyed his Halloween movies, but at the same time I recognize they aren&#039;t very good movies either. Just he has a way of letting the viewer into his films and makes them feel like they&#039;re watching a true movie and not an imitation of reality. Just my two cents, and can&#039;t wait for Lords of Salem.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2012 19:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>The thing about Rob Zombie is he is a creative force in terms, Although I love his music and films I felt he was pressured with the remakes and when he eventually went off in his own direction with Halloween 2 everyone hated it for their own reasons White horse, Dead Mom, Micheal&#039;s look ect.. because they were expecting it to be like Halloween 2 (1981) but it wasn&#039;t. I like Zombie&#039;s Halloweens because it&#039;s his own telling of the films. His writting lacks I&#039;ll admitt but his directing skills are great. He just needs to stick to his own things.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2012 19:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>LoudLon wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>Maxwell wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>One of the worst big budget horror movies of the past decade:&nbsp; Halloween II.&nbsp; How are we supposed to care about Laurie when she&#039;s become such a ratty ass, irritating douchebag?&nbsp; Heck, I had a hard time caring about Danielle Harris&#039;s character, and it&#039;s pretty hard for me to NOT LIKE her.&nbsp; I always loved Pleasence&#039;s nutty Loomis, but McDowell&#039;s, particularly in this one, was just terrible.&nbsp; Then he gives his wife an even bigger, nonsensical role that had me holding my head.&nbsp; I just wanted it to be over.&nbsp; I know he wanted to make these movies dark and brutal, but did they have to be so shitty?</p></blockquote></div><p>While I enjoyed RZ&#039;s first Halloween, I completely agree with you on his H2.&nbsp; It&#039;s just a dark, ugly, depressing movie with not a single likeable character (aside from Brad Dourif&#039;s Sheriff Brackett).&nbsp; I didn&#039;t care what happened to Lori Strode in this movie because she was a whiny, punk ass bitch.&nbsp; And poor Danielle Harris...&nbsp; After this flick I totally understand why she decided to give directing a shot.&nbsp; She deserves better.</p><p>But, as bad as the movie was, RZ won me over enough with The Devil&#039;s Rejects and Halloween &#039;07 that I&#039;m willing to give him another shot or two.&nbsp; Here&#039;s to hoping Lords of Salem turns out good.&nbsp; It&#039;s got a horror movie cast to kill for, so I have some amount of hope for it.</p></blockquote></div><p>I&#039;m being hard on the guy, but I just don&#039;t like much of anything he does.&nbsp; I think he has it in him to do something good, but I agree with what someone posted earlier about him needing to get away from the whole evil hillbilly mire he&#039;s wallowing in.&nbsp; There&#039;s something about his work, music and film, that I can&#039;t appreciate.&nbsp; It&#039;s my hang up.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2012 23:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Maxwell wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>One of the worst big budget horror movies of the past decade:&nbsp; Halloween II.&nbsp; How are we supposed to care about Laurie when she&#039;s become such a ratty ass, irritating douchebag?&nbsp; Heck, I had a hard time caring about Danielle Harris&#039;s character, and it&#039;s pretty hard for me to NOT LIKE her.&nbsp; I always loved Pleasence&#039;s nutty Loomis, but McDowell&#039;s, particularly in this one, was just terrible.&nbsp; Then he gives his wife an even bigger, nonsensical role that had me holding my head.&nbsp; I just wanted it to be over.&nbsp; I know he wanted to make these movies dark and brutal, but did they have to be so shitty?</p></blockquote></div><p>While I enjoyed RZ&#039;s first Halloween, I completely agree with you on his H2.&nbsp; It&#039;s just a dark, ugly, depressing movie with not a single likeable character (aside from Brad Dourif&#039;s Sheriff Brackett).&nbsp; I didn&#039;t care what happened to Lori Strode in this movie because she was a whiny, punk ass bitch.&nbsp; And poor Danielle Harris...&nbsp; After this flick I totally understand why she decided to give directing a shot.&nbsp; She deserves better.</p><p>But, as bad as the movie was, RZ won me over enough with The Devil&#039;s Rejects and Halloween &#039;07 that I&#039;m willing to give him another shot or two.&nbsp; Here&#039;s to hoping Lords of Salem turns out good.&nbsp; It&#039;s got a horror movie cast to kill for, so I have some amount of hope for it.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2012 23:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m cool with Rob just because Devil&#039;s Rejects is so awesome.&nbsp; Halloween 1 was barely OK and Halloween 2 most hated.&nbsp; I really enjoy House of a Thousand Corpses and love his originality when it comes to music/dialogue/casting/humor/horror in those 2 movies.&nbsp; Devil&#039;s Rejects never gets old.</p><p>Not a fan of his music either, pretty much only a fan of Corpses and Rejects.&nbsp; Two damn good movies, especially in a world that doesn&#039;t produce many great original characters/scripts.&nbsp; I know House of a Thousand Corpses just pays homage to movies like TCM, but it still has Sid Haig and all his hilarious ass quotes.&nbsp; It still has Mosely raising hell literally.&nbsp; Zombie definitely isn&#039;t one of my favorite directors...</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2012 22:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I do not care for RZ&#039;s brand of house-metal and though I don&#039;t doubt his love for the horror genre, I don&#039;t care for his white trash take on the genre either.&nbsp; HO1KC was exactly what I expected from him for his 1st film and I really didn&#039;t hate it as much as others seem to.&nbsp; Saw TDR in the theater, but I didn&#039;t really care for it and thought he failed to capture the 70s grindhouse vibe he was shooting for.&nbsp; Like Natural Born Killers, it was a hard sell trying to romanticize a group of murderous lowlifes as heroic badasses.&nbsp; With that said, I got a kick out of Sid Haig, but wanted to puncture my eardrums anything his wife opened her mouth.</p><p>Then there came Halloween.&nbsp; I know I&#039;m alone in this but I&#039;d rather watch Halloween: Resurrection than sit through this again.&nbsp; I tried to like it because I love the Halloween franchise - the good, bad, and embarrassingly awful.&nbsp; I didn&#039;t need to know Michael&#039;s white trash background.&nbsp; I hate it that he made him a pouty faced, too cool for school, rock n&#039; roll brat.&nbsp; I guess we were supposed to feel sorry for him, but like most all of RZ&#039;s characters, he was hard to empathize with.&nbsp; Of course, then he turned him in a hulking, superhuman pro wrestler that wasn&#039;t as scary as RZ thought he was.&nbsp; He also picked a poor Laurie.&nbsp; Plus, the movie just doesn&#039;t FEEL like Halloween, which brings us to...</p><p>One of the worst big budget horror movies of the past decade:&nbsp; Halloween II.&nbsp; How are we supposed to care about Laurie when she&#039;s become such a ratty ass, irritating douchebag?&nbsp; Heck, I had a hard time caring about Danielle Harris&#039;s character, and it&#039;s pretty hard for me to NOT LIKE her.&nbsp; I always loved Pleasence&#039;s nutty Loomis, but McDowell&#039;s, particularly in this one, was just terrible.&nbsp; Then he gives his wife an even bigger, nonsensical role that had me holding my head.&nbsp; I just wanted it to be over.&nbsp; I know he wanted to make these movies dark and brutal, but did they have to be so shitty?&nbsp; Give me Halloween 6:&nbsp; The Curse of Michael Myers ANY day of the week.&nbsp; At least it&#039;s fun in a so-bad-it&#039;s... er, fun way.</p><p>I even tried watching that El Superbeasto cartoon.&nbsp; Didn&#039;t make it past 30 minutes.&nbsp; No, I won&#039;t give it another chance.&nbsp; I don&#039;t think filmmaking is RZ&#039;s calling.&nbsp; Hell, I don&#039;t think making &quot;music&quot; is his calling either, BUT some sick part of me wants to give Lords of Salem a chance even though the plot description sounds lousy.&nbsp; Who knows, maybe he&#039;ll do something good someday.&nbsp; What can I say?&nbsp; We horror fans are gluttons for punishment.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2012 22:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m not a big fan of his style (or skill), for the most part, but I recognize he has passion for his work.&nbsp; And I&#039;d take an Ed Wood over a Uwe Boll any day, and thrice on Thursday.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2012 22:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I like him. I dig his music and I think his films are great. 1000 Corpses is like carnival sideshow. The colors, characters and mayhem make for good, fun horror. Granted he threw in a few cliches and was clearly influenced by certain films, but I don&#039;t care. I really enjoy it every time I see it. Rejects is a kick-ass piece of cinema, IMO. It&#039;s such a stark and gritty contrast to Corpses. The dialogue was brilliant. My husband and I still quote it on a regular basis. His first Halloween remake isn&#039;t near as perfect as Carpenter&#039;s, but I still like it. The second however, I didn&#039;t care for on first viewing. The white horse thing completely threw me. I have seen it several times since then and changed my opinion. It&#039;s my least favorite of his, but still better than a lot of the crap being churned out these days.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2012 22:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>The reason he jumped on the Halloween remake is because Miramax/Dimension were spreading around that they were interested in remaking the material and looking for new, upcoming directors interested in scoring a first big credit and who might be interested.&nbsp; Zombie campaigned for it, so that none of those same some up-and-coming fuck-sticks who didn&#039;t care about the material and were only looking for a first credit wouldn&#039;t take the material and ruin it.&nbsp; </p><p>Personally, I thought he did an admirable job.&nbsp; Granted the last half of the remake is basically the first flick condensed down to forty five minutes, but the first half was refreshingly raw and grim, IMO.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2012 22:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I certainly respect him. I have never heard of Rob Zombie until he started directing, (yea I don&#039;t listen to rock)...and I respect a man who jumps into directing and he has certainly elevated his skill since. I respect the fact that he does keep it real on interviews, no movie industry cliches. I respect the fact that he is a fan of the genre. <br />But....he needs to keep his project material original. Have no idea why he would want to make a remake or re-imagining or whatever of a classic like &#039;Halloween&#039;. Must have been the payday because artistically it was a losing endeavor.&nbsp; However...enjoyed &#039;TDR&#039; &amp; I look forward to his next&nbsp; ORIGINAL project even though he has a fascination with large men killing people.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2012 21:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I think Rob is great.</p><p>House of 1000 Corpses was a fun, solid horror movie. The Devil&#039;s Rejects is his masterpiece, IMO. His Halloween remake was great, and I even enjoy Halloween 2. It&#039;s certainly the worst of his movies, yes, but after a few watches, I really like it now. I thought Taylor Scout Compton did a great job with continuing the role of Laurie, and personally, I thought it was fun to see the dark side of Loomis. Really looking forward to The Lords of Salem.</p><p>Also, his music is awesome. Both his solo stuff and with White Zombie.<br />His latest disc, Hellbilly Deluxe 2, was a really good horror rock/metal album.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2012 20:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#039;t find HO1KC is really a legit horror. It seemed more like one big music video but after watching it a second time I can see all the homages and tributes to the greats but it isn&#039;t purely horror, there is a lot of very well placed black comedy there which makes the film more enjoyable. I&#039;ve not seen Rejects yet.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2012 20:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>House of a thousand corpses is a very legit TCM style Horror film.&nbsp; Most people love Devil&#039;s Rejects and don&#039;t even mention House.&nbsp; But House is a pure Horror film unlike Devil&#039;s Rejects.&nbsp; One of the better Horror films to come out of the last 15 years.&nbsp; It really is a modern day TCM.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2012 16:35:13 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I like Rob Zombie, his music and his first film was fun, BUT, he needs to step outside his evil redneck/hillbilly comfort zone, because it&#039;s becoming derivative. (Not sure why it cut off the first time I posted this but anywho)</p><p>I would love to see him do something really different!</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2012 18:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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