Topic: Grindhouse Rating Problems?

Grindhouse, the highly anticipated team-up with Rodriquez & Tarantino tearing up the big screen with blood, violence, sex, high octane action and Rose McGowan and a M16 for a leg....might run into problems with the MPAA.  Because apparently,...

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That blows!

I hope the full cut will be on the DVD, I might just wait until then to see it.

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I had a feeling something like this would happen.  How cool would it be if they kept the original cut and changed the rating to NC-17?  No matter what happens, though, I'll be seeing this one opening night.  I can't wait.

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Definatly agree with TiM, no matter what I am seeing this.

I don't perscribe to the "if its not the full cut I am skipping it" mentality, if we wanna see another GRINDHOUSE film, we all need to get out an see it and give it as much business as possible. 

Just hope the film isn't mangled. 

I have heard the MPAA might be changing the system so NC17 won't be taboo and considered everything NC17 pornographic...but it probably won't come soon.

I can beat once this starts getting more around...the community is gonna hold its breath.

Last edited by thegoldensimatar (2007-03-15 23:29:44)

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Well I will probably see it, If it is cut like Hills remake was but that doesn't look like the case it seems.

Kids will get their parents and friends to get them in, I am not worried about it making enough money, its obviously going to break the bank.

We will know more the closer the release date gets here.

This is just speculation but I think it is a great idea.

http://www.slashfilm.com/2007/03/15/gri … huge-cuts/


But here’s another thought: Would the Weinsteins have the guts/stupidity to release the film unrated or NC-17? While this idea would most definitely hurt their bottom line, it could make an interesting experiment:

Release the movie in an R-Rated cut in the wide release, but also release an Unrated cut in a limited run on the same day and date. The result might be fascinating.

Maybe Tarantino should talk to Steven Spielberg smile

Last edited by goldenwarrior (2007-03-16 00:34:46)

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no way they will risk making less then 1/4 the profit by releasing it as NC-17. They will edit, release it as R make $300million and then cleanup another 500million on DVD doing an uncut version.

Only a fool would think they would put uncut in theatres. It would eliminate their opportunity to double dip us right away. oh and no im not calling anyone here a fool lol.

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I'm not worried.  Either way we'll be able to see an uncut version of "Grindhouse".  Whether that be, on the big screen, or on DVD.  Plus, I've gotten into so many horror movies in the past, and I'm only 17.  (turned 17 yesterday smile)  They're not very strict over where I live.  If your paying, they will let you in.

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Happy Belated Birthday TiM!  smile

Well with kids its always a problem with me as I hate small children screaminng their heads off in films like Resident Evil 2, Land of the Dead, Underworld Evolution, Devil's Rejects...now that I am at a theater...when I'm at the box office....I will be sure to tell the parents the violence is too much for the kids (even if I haven't seen it smile)


I agree with Meh, his idea is the most logical.  Cut the film to R, release...make bank and then release R on DVD and wait a few months before doing a slick Unrated Cut.

The article Warrior found would be awesome, release a R wide and Unrated limited.  Be great if it was done.  Something interesting of note to back Warrior up.  I was watching an interview with Uwe Boll and he mentioned that at least in Germany both R and Unrated cuts are released at the same time and sometimes, depending on how wide the release, the unrated does better.  So, at least in some places the Unrated will come out.

Though, I am having memories of tales of butchered grindhouse films right now.  I can only hope the films are edited carefully so not to rob any of the shock and horror and disappoint all the fans.  I don't imagine the Weinsteins doing this to two of their biggest money makers....I hope...

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Thank you.  smile

Well, when I show up to the box office, wearing my "Street Trash" t-shirt, people don't usually mind me buying my own ticket.  I do know what you mean, though.  I remember seeing "The Hills Have Eyes" and little kids had managed to get in and scream their heads off.  Afterwards, they went and complained to the box office.  Pissed me off.  It's ok to be strict, to a degree.  I mean, I love horror, a lot, but it just so happens that I'm only 17.

I hope that the R version will be totally uncut.  That's what I'm pulling for.

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thegoldensimatar wrote:

Happy Belated Birthday TiM!  smile

The article Warrior found would be awesome, release a R wide and Unrated limited.  Be great if it was done.  Something interesting of note to back Warrior up.  I was watching an interview with Uwe Boll and he mentioned that at least in Germany both R and Unrated cuts are released at the same time and sometimes, depending on how wide the release, the unrated does better.  So, at least in some places the Unrated will come out.

Though, I am having memories of tales of butchered grindhouse films right now.  I can only hope the films are edited carefully so not to rob any of the shock and horror and disappoint all the fans.  I don't imagine the Weinsteins doing this to two of their biggest money makers....I hope...

fyi, somewhat related, the film will be shown as 2 movies in Germany and will be heavily edited according to those in the know in germany.

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You're right on the split...forgot about Grindhouse being broken up into 2 flicks outside of the USA and a few other places.  Heavy editing...well, guess there are different levels of Unrated.

Can only hope for here a good, solid, gory, shocking R.

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That's why a lot of films are banned in a lot of places, except the US.  It blows for a lot of the horror fans that have to experience "Grindhouse" split up.  Then again, they might get a chance to see the unrated version when the DVD is released.  I think that's when the film will make some serious bank.

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Definatly, a lot of films nowadays make serious cash off DVDs.  Though its definatly not as much as total theatrical run, its definatly where some films make enough cash to either get back their budgets and turn profit or enough to warrent sequels.

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I continue with my idea of showing the R rated version all day and the last show make it a NC17. And make the DVD unrated and that's it.

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I like that idea Kruz.  Would work.  Once like 8-9pm rolls around Grindhouse switches to showing NC17.  Would help bring back the feel of the old days.  But downside unless you have a few screens playing it, you will only have time for maybe 1 show...2 depending on how long it is.

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One NC17 show a day. I don't think you need more. It could probably become a trend and I would become famous for my idea!!!

Not everybody cares between R and NC17 and the ones that do will definelty go to the night show with some curious people to watch what's the whole drama about. If those shows sell out put another show and there's your solution. I don't know how cinemas work but I think it's a good idea.

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I think that the solid R rating will attract a lot more people.  People will see the NC17, especially the younger crowd, and be pissed because they can't get in.  But, if an R rating means, cutting a bunch of gnarly footage, then leave it at NC17.  Save the big bucks for the DVD.

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Listening to what most folks are saying...I like Kruz idea of showing 1 or 2 night showings of the NC17 version while throughout the day show the R rated version.  Gives us hardcore fans a chance to see the NC17 version and will also help catapult the MPAA and thier rumored decision about making NC17 either the more extreme R or just a harder R rating. 

And young people can't get in anyway unless they have a parent to bring in loads of them for R.  I think the age is 21 or so before you can bring in more than 1 person under 18 for R.

Last edited by thegoldensimatar (2007-03-18 10:17:09)

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This is bullshit. A film should be seen the way the director originally envisioned it. Not compromised because the MPAA thinks they know what's best for everyone.

thegoldensimatar wrote:

I agree with Meh, his idea is the most logical.  Cut the film to R, release...make bank and then release R on DVD and wait a few months before doing a slick Unrated Cut.

I think this is exactly their ploy. It's all about the almighty dollar.
The theatrical release will definitely be an 'R'. If you have an NC-17 rating, you can't advertise on network television, there are newspapers you can't be advertised in, and there are certain theaters that won't even play it.

Honestly, if someone is mature enough to handle an 'R' film, you would think they could handle an NC-17, it's not like it's porn. roll No matter what happens I'm still seeing this movie as soon as it's released.

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Nosferatu wrote:

This is bullshit. A film should be seen the way the director originally envisioned it. Not compromised because the MPAA thinks they know what's best for everyone.

Well said.  smile

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I agree with the fact that the movie should be shown the way it was envisioned but the MPAA isn't going anywhere so you just have to play the game and create a good plan to show a good movie and get the cash.

And I think this movie is creating a lot of discussion about this topic because it's two big name directors. Otherwise it wouldn't probably create so much arguement.

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I don't think so.  If any two directors were trying to bring back the old grindhouse feel from the early 70's, I think we'd still be pretty "chatty" about the subject.  Having Quentin Tarantino and Robert Rodriguez on board, only adds to the anticipation, so, your right about that.

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I meant not only the discussion here on the forum but also in the MPAA and the cinema business people. The cinemas want the cash for these two names and they want the option that gives them more cash. The MPAA has nothing to do and they screw people over just for fun. If it was two unknown directors, the MPAA would put the NC17 without a doubt and the cinemas wouldn't care that much anyway because not a lot of people would watch it even if it was an R rated flick.

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Oh, alright, I got you.  That was another big part of this buzz.  If it had been any other two directors, I doubt we would have been seeing a "Grindhouse" at all.  Tarantino and Rodriguez are both very well known and spoken for, and are pretty respected in the film industry.  They also happen to have major talent.  I'm excited.

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I'm excited too but I'm also pissed at whoever created the MPAA.