Topic: Horror With A Message

I just thought up something earlier tonight that I want to try with board members here.  Can you list anywhere between five or ten horror-films that you truly considered really deep.  I'm not talking about actual fright or gore, even though that may be a factor.  I mean horror-films that had a profound impact on you intellectually, emotionally or both.  I'll even throw in spiritually.

As for me, I have to get back to this tomorrow and submit my list.

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I take my massages with horror its only right

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not really classed as horror but "Butterfly Effect" and the same with "The Ninth Configuration" , " Exorcist " and "Exorcist 3" and to a lesser extent "A Haunting in Connicticutt" are a few that readily come to mind. there are more, i'll have to think on it.

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Frailty-  A twisted father and son relationship
Imprint- Abortion rights

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Hard Candy.

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Jennifer - Argentos little take on Lolita

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Hey, so long as I get a happy ending... I'm good. wink

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Blindness had a profound impact on me when I watched it. It may not be gory, but I would most definitely argue that it could be classified as a horror movie. It gave an unflinching portrayal of human nature.

On a less personal note, here are some horror movies that are laced with an obvious message. The previous posts led me to it; they're all from Showtime's Masters of Horror series, so technically they're actually television episodes, but whatever.

• Homecoming – A commentary about government’s war policies.
• Sick Girl – A commentary about the dangers of moving into a relationship too quickly.
• Pro-Life – You can probably guess the content.
• Right to Die – Also pretty self-explanatory. 
• Pelts – A commentary on wearing animals; PETA probably jizzed themselves.

Also:

The Crazies - Looks at the dangers of biological warfare.

The Host - Looks at the dangers of polluting the environment.

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Damn, "Frailty", "Hard Candy", just when I compiled a list you guys, as always, come up with others great ones I forgot.

Anyway, horror-movies that made me do some serious thinking and/or really touched me emotionally . . .

I definitely have to start off with these two . . .

Devil's Advocate and

They Live

in another thread people were talking about Stephen King movies that brought these two to mind . . .

Storm Of The Century

The Stand

then there's . . .

Butterfly Effect (Wolfman, you read my mind)

Flowers In The Attic

Tales From The Hood

Blade

Day Of The Dead (the one made in the 80's)

Jacob's Ladder

Other honorable-mentions are "Cube Zero", "SE7EN", "Exorcist 3" (Wolfman, you did it again), "Constantine", "Stigmata", "The Sixth Sense", "Cry Wolf", "Surrogates", "Island Of Lost Souls", "Carnival Of Souls", "People Under The Stairs", "The Island", "Taxi Driver", "The Philadelphia Experiment", "Galaxy of Terror (1981)", "Natural Born Killers", "The Box" and a movie made a few years ago, of which I can't remember the title, where scientists invented a complex that takes people back in time for sport and in an instants somebody messed up and the present-day kept changing . . . for the worse.

Also I'd like to list a few that may not be considered "real horror-movies" . . .

Blindness

Open Waters

Night Of The Hunter

The Thirteenth Floor

The Handmaid's Tale

Fortress

Heart Of Atlantis

The Forgotten

Changeling

The Machinist (this film shows you what guilt can do if you don't try to make some kind of amends)

Murder, Live (a seriously tragic look into the television/entertainment industry)

Salem Witch Trials (this movie shows how really gullible and reckless people can be and easily get carried away based on fear . . . uhm, did someone say "Homeland Security, Patriot Act, Iraq Invasion")

September Dawn (it was real tragic how those people got setup and slaughtered then it was falsely blamed on an Indian attack)

Last edited by Black Sunlite (2011-05-21 15:19:30)

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The film title you are looking for black sunlite is "The Sound Of Thunder". Good thread by the way:)

Last edited by wolfman1959 (2011-05-21 15:52:24)

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First, I’d like to clarify something, it was brought to my attention that the way I made my comment about “Homeland Security”, “The Patriot Act” and “The Iraq Invasion” can be misconstrued by some as a possible setup.  I thought about this and came to realize what the person (who’s not a member of this forum) said had validity within the present day climate of the society seemingly on an express-train to Dictatorship-ville.  So I’d like to openly state that I am not in any way an agent-provocateur and that the aforementioned point of view expressed was mine . . . and, until thoroughly and honestly proven otherwise, I stand by it.  No, I’m not seeking any assent or applauds to my said remark, especially since, out of respect for structural arrangement and purpose of the forum, this is not the place to get into any discussion of that type.  It was just me expressing my social/political viewpoint in my usual flippant manner.

Wolfman, thanks for the information. 

Bride, please excuse me, I overlooked the fact we was on the same page about the movie

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DirtyGirl wrote:

Frailty-  A twisted father and son relationship


That was the first one to come to mind when I saw the post. That movie always stayed with me too and it's been many years since I've seen it.

Also 'Carrie' for me.. it's not too far from the truth, with kids being bullied so much, it really damages the psyche and turns some people into monsters.

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The Mist
Cannibal Holocaust

Because they both show that Human beings are truley the scariest monsters out there. Even the God fearing ones.

Last House on the Left (72) because It made me feel repulsed at how truley evil a person can be. The darkness inside our minds can push us to do horrible things. Most importantly, I feel it slaps you in the face and says "Hey, these things really happen in this world" and that's frightning.

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Saw really made me question my morals, and the justice system. Because of the way jigsaw chose his victims. I found myself questioning how wrong or right he was in his actions since our justice system really doesn't punish those who are immoral. In one of the sequels, one of his "victims" is an insurance agent who had denied him coverage for his treatment. Insurance companies are vampires who bleed this countrys citizens for every drop they can get without remorse.

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Two more I should add is The Experiment (I saw it this afternoon) and Devil.

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Black Sunlite wrote:

and a movie made a few years ago, of which I can't remember the title, where scientists invented a complex that takes people back in time for sport and in an instants somebody messed up and the present-day kept changing . . . for the worse.

"Sound of Thunder"
It was because the management removed a bio-filter from the machine because "it used a lot of energy, which was expensive."

Nice thread.  I think everyone has hit everything I could think of without doing some research.

Maybe 'Boxing Helena'?

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The message to Boxing Helena is "Don't appear in a Julian Sands movie if you want your career to continue."

Poor Sherilyn Fenn... sad

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Fatal Instinct, Darkness Falls....
Yep, you're right.  sad

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Well, I actually liked Fatal Instinct.

"I hear you go both ways."
"Only once.  It was a fraternity prank.  I never saw him again."
"I meant, you're a cop and a lawyer."
*awkward silence*

That movie cracks me up! lol

Haven't seen Darkness Falls, though.

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Don't bother with 'Darkness.'  But she chewed up the screen in 'Fatal' like wowza!  And Assante wasn't too bad, either!  lol

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Night of the Living Dead and Dawn of the Dead are both biting social commentaries. You often don't spot it until later, but the messages in those films are really strong. The racist theme in Night of the Living Dead, the consumer society in Dawn of the Dead... Those are really powerful. Shivers is about sexual liberation, and is a pretty good film too. In more recent examples, Hostel deals with the increasingly hostile world that Americans live in. I think that film would've been even greater if they explored that theme, how Americans are becoming less and less popular abroad, but they probably just wanted to make a torture porn movie.

All the best horror films have some kind of moral theme they explore, and that's a big problem with horror films in the post-slasher era, because they've been drained of theme. It has gone from a thematic statement and exploring our fears on a psychological level to a "gore machine".

Last edited by stianchrister (2011-08-12 07:08:17)

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^^^
You just spelled out a whole lot of my problems I have with 'mainstream' horror nowadays- just 'shiny' gore with no background.

We have a Movie Night where we will watch a movie(s) while chatting online.  We did "Dawn of the Dead" one night, and "Legend of Hell House" another night, and the discussions was mostly about the background and atmosphere of the films.

(Yes, this did include a shameless plug.  big_smile  )

Last edited by azathoth (2011-08-12 07:06:23)

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Another film that did a pretty solid job with the message thing was The Signal. Some people hate it, others love it. I found it quite intriguing, both in terms of what they achieved with limited funds, and the thematic message of the film.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0780607/

Edit:
Movie night sounds amazing.

Last edited by stianchrister (2011-08-12 07:09:01)

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Feel free to join tomorrow, stian!  Here's the announcement with info for tomorrow.

'Fallen' just popped into my head as one that almost, almost made it.  The ending was set up perfectly, and copped out, probably for a possible sequel.

Spoiler-  (click and drag to see below)

edit- 'Fallen' was scratching at the back of my brain for like 2 days now.  I knew there was a film that had a self-sacrifice that was blown at the last second.

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Last edited by azathoth (2011-08-12 07:21:10)

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stianchrister wrote:

Night of the Living Dead and Dawn of the Dead are both biting social commentaries. You often don't spot it until later, but the messages in those films are really strong. The racist theme in Night of the Living Dead, the consumer society in Dawn of the Dead... Those are really powerful. Shivers is about sexual liberation, and is a pretty good film too. In more recent examples, Hostel deals with the increasingly hostile world that Americans live in. I think that film would've been even greater if they explored that theme, how Americans are becoming less and less popular abroad, but they probably just wanted to make a torture porn movie.

All the best horror films have some kind of moral theme they explore, and that's a big problem with horror films in the post-slasher era, because they've been drained of theme. It has gone from a thematic statement and exploring our fears on a psychological level to a "gore machine".

Well said.

azathoth wrote:

^^^
You just spelled out a whole lot of my problems I have with 'mainstream' horror nowadays- just 'shiny' gore with no background.

We have a Movie Night where we will watch a movie(s) while chatting online.  We did "Dawn of the Dead" one night, and "Legend of Hell House" another night, and the discussions was mostly about the background and atmosphere of the films.

(Yes, this did include a shameless plug.  big_smile  )

Also well said...LOL, and honesty on the promotion too.