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Yep, always a step ahead.  lol  One of these days I'll find something new for ya!  big_smile

This turned into quite a neat thread.   Good job DG!

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I have to admit, before joining HM last november I didn't watch much that was dated before 1990. To be honest, as a casual movie goer, I would rather see more recent stuff but as I am trying to educate myself on cinema and video history, I try to watch more from earlier years. Some films still come across as dated but I do try to remember that these films were not always old. Evil Dead is 30+ years old but man it's still so much fun, it's silly and it's dated look makes it look better as a film that doesn't take itself too seriously. Infact, I have prefered the grainy copies to the "digitally remastered" looks of a lot of movies because they are more authentic. So many people complain about the quality of VHS compared to todays bluray and it really annoys me.

Awesome UV. I also like old copies of movies, but for me it's a nostalgic thing wink

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VHS wasn't about grain, digitally remastered films can retain a high level of grain, sometimes even more so. VHS was just lower quality, grain is in film, not format. TCM '74 on bluray has tons of grain. I know it's not the topic, I was just responding to Ultraviolence. I am not trying to be rude btw UV! I just wanted to specify. I DO get what you are saying though, the lower video quality can make things look more dated because the video is jusy not as crisp which can make it look "dated" and sometimes it is nice to watch it that way because it has a charm from it's era. Although yes on higher quality formats for some films grain has been intentionally swept away and it leaves the image looking strangley smooth and waxey.

No I know. These are what I was talking about. The ones that don't even look like the same  movie anymore because they've tweeked and airbrushed to the point where everything looks too new and too perfect. I don't care either way what format something is tbh. VHS DVD or BluRay. I watch a lot streaming from Lovefilm and a lot of them have been "remastered" at some point. Argentos films never seemed to have any sort of grain to them though so I'm guessing it's a budget issue rather than a sign of the times anyway. Kubricks films are smoother and less dated looking because he had a budget to work with while Raimi did his first ED or even before that it's original Within the woods is shocking quality but he did it with nothing. I think while looking at picture quality and wardrobe, effects, sets (or lack of) and equipment you have to take into account how much the film was made for. At the end of the day a good plot, proper direction and half decent story telling makes the clothes they are wearing or the camera they used a lot less relevent anyway.

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Awesome site Azz,  I will have a look through.  As you all probably know, I still buy VHS and I buy Bluray as well.  The Blurays do have a strange look to them, almost as if I am watching an old soap opera instead of a movie.  I love to go see older movies on 35mm when I get a chance to,  they look the best on the big screen!  But I don't get the chance very often. 

UV- I think you hit the nail on the head there.  I think some us are willing to look past the dated look because we are interested in Cinema and the history of it.  I have seen quite a few people say they won't watch an old black and white movie.  Well, they are really missing out then, because some of the best movies are in black and white.  Night of the Living Dead, Eyes Without a Face, Night of the Hunter, Frankenstein, Dracula, and Nosferatu are just a few I can think of right now.   

I watched Whatever Happened to Baby Jane? yesterday and it was fantastic!  I was thinking this must be the very first "torture porn" movie ever made.  The violence was brutal, even though it is only implied, and the Actors were some of the best that cinema has to offer.  So I really feel sorry for those fans that won't even give a black and white movie a chance.

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^^ The creepiness and sense of dread in that movie are insane. I'm going to have to watch it again now that you've brought it up.

And that makes me sad about certain fans' views on B&W. I agree, they are really missing out. How can you not give some of them a chance? The original Haunting and The House on Haunted Hill are both in black and white, not to mention The Bride of Frankenstein as well as the ones you mentioned.

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Another to put on my list DG. big_smile Didn't Alice cooper get his make-up inspiration from Whatever happened to baby Jane?

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I understand why some folks don't enjoy black and white flicks.  That's not to say I agree with them, but I do understand.  Personally I have no preference.  A good movie is a good movie, regardless of film stock.  For instance there are tons of very good Shot-On-Video flicks out there -- stuff like Shatter Dead, The Vicious Sweet, Original Sins (1993, not that silly Banderas/Jolie flick from '01) and numerous others, that most folks wouldn't bother with because they were shot on video.  As Ms. G said, they're missing out.

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^^ The creepiness and sense of dread in that movie are insane. I'm going to have to watch it again now that you've brought it up.

And that makes me sad about certain fans' views on B&W. I agree, they are really missing out. How can you not give some of them a chance? The original Haunting and The House on Haunted Hill are both in black and white, not to mention The Bride of Frankenstein as well as the ones you mentioned.

dirty girl and ms gorefiend ! mary you know i am with you on the black & white films and it's because i love film new and old and all genres but especially our beloved horror. you know i loves ya Mary! and Ms G you have gone up in my estimation 200% and you weren't exactly low down the list before as you're a lovely girl too! you may rub my belly! smile

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what is dated anyway? me?

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I think that In the Mouth of Madness has stood the test of time, didn't feel dated at all when I rewatched it recently. It's all subjective anyway.

I do enjoy some old horror flicks, but a lot do feel "dated" in that their shock value hasn't got much impact compared with more modern ones.

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@wolf *belly rubs*

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