Topic: I finally did it!

I finally got round to watch some walking dead. My other half is the zombie fan not me, i like torture porn (erch hate that term) slashers and creep fests and while zombies satisfy my need for violence and bloodshed I never really enjoy them. The walking dead has been begging me to watch for months and as I'm suffering the flu at the moment. First ep, good start, but the same questions I get with all of them popped up 'when and how did it start' but I liked it for its character development. It has the usual cliche characters and I have to admit, I shed a little secret tear when they ate the pony. I managed half of ep2 before I fell asleep but my other half watched 5 of season 1 and loved it and wants to sit me down to watch the rest tonight! Taking the plunge well worth it!

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You get the background a few more episodes in.  Takes time to develop.

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Thought you finally "did it".

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stoopid stuff used to reside here.

Last edited by azathoth (2012-10-13 14:02:32)

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Haha yeah dan said it does tell a bit more as it goes on.

And alb bit of an inapropriate place to post that kinda info wink

But no Fair play it is good. I like how it doesn't call them zombies but walkers. Nice.

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^^
I apologize if I overstepped my bounds.

I fixed it.

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I'm catching up on season 2 right now. Can hardly wait till tomorrow!

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I recommend you stick with it, Crispy.  That show does nothing but get better and better as it goes along (though I think it's been great since the very first episode).  Even the second season, which most folks harp about being too slow, really ratchets up tension between characters and play off their interpersonal conflicts (wait 'til you see how Rick handles it when he finds himself in a live-or-die situation in an abandoned bar...dude is a BAD ASS).  I just think it's one of the best-written shows on TV right now, right up there with Sons of Anarcy and Breaking Bad.

I'll be watching a marathon of the first two seasons tomorrow in build up to the season 3 premiere.  I may have to wait an hour or two after it airs to watch it (no cable right now, I'll have to DL it later that night after it's been ripped and uploaded lol) but I'm drooling in anticipation.

Last edited by LoudLon (2012-10-13 14:46:32)

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Oh yea Like Lonny said, stick with it.... tomorrow is the 3rd season man I'll be watchin it and recording it. I hate tv series but I like this one.

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I should say I hate new tv series.... shit I love old tv series back in the day from like sienfeld and before it all the awesome classic shit like all in the family etc you get my drift!

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I got agree, as a percentage basis, there is more dreck released each year.  Yes, I realize that the proliferation of channels has increased, but do we really need 82 reality shows, 47 pawn shows, 65 shows people wrangling swamp creatures, etc.  And the BooBoo Bunny girl?

Give me M*A*S*H or the A-Team any day.  And our horror shows, of course!  lol

Last edited by azathoth (2012-10-13 15:37:08)

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Y'know what I enjoyed about the A-Team?  Everytime B.A Barackus got in a fight, somebody's ass got thrown.  You hardly ever saw him punch anybody, you always got that low-camera-angle, over-the-head BA heave-ho. lol

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I always enjoyed when they would make a tank out of a tricycle or some such.   "Here's a Nerf gun."  "Cool."  Next scene, nuclear bazooka.  It was so over the top...

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Yeah, there were a few things you could count on to occur in every episode.  The BA throw, the jerry-rigged vehicular assault, Hannibal in a movie costume, Face flirting with some hot chick, Murdock doing some silly schtick, Les Nessman with a new bandaid (oop, wrong series big_smile )...

It may have been entertainment by rote, but it was entertainment nonetheless.

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I find it hard to watch the show after getting so engaged in the comics. I find them to be better for me personally.

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I think we had this discussion a few days ago somewhere (something about Sphere, I think)- read first then watch, or watch then read?  I'm a watch first guy.  Text, or graphic novels/comics, give a much more expansive space to tell a story, normally.

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Underdog wrote:

I'm catching up on season 2 right now. Can hardly wait till tomorrow!


Wow! I must be slipping as I had no idea the third season kicked off tomorrow! Tbh I fell out of love with it about half way through the second series as the whole farm thing became dull. In fact, most, if not all, of season 2 feels more like a soap opera that merely happens to include zombies than a televisual horror saga. The first series was fantastic but (and please don't yell at me Yanks) the second series felt like an excersise in contrived and dull writing to prolong the programme. American television suffers this fate constantly and it's easy to see why - your stations stand to attract multi millions of views which means multi millions of money. You don't have to be a genius to work out that viewership means cash so the higher-ups will milk the cash cow dry, then prop it up on life support to squeeze every last drop out until it dehydrates and we all forget about the pathetic final series'. Sorry yankees but we tend to wrap up our successful programs on a high instead of flogging their corpses for the corporate dollar. There's no life (pun intended!) in The Walking Dead, it's spent, it's pushing up the daisies, an ex-parrot as it were but ratings sell.
Now, I'm not attacking American programming, Breaking Bad is probably the best television series since The Sopranos but "I am the one who knocks" and let's be honest... "what kind of man talks to the zombies?
No man.
No man at all!"
Apologies for the Breaking Bad quotes at the end !

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*Mild spoilers below*


Someone who has read the series would be better to answer this, since I don't know if the farm part is integral to the whole story.  I also found that section slow, but there was some character development.  From the little I've heard, once they hit the prison it gets intense again.

Lon or Scavenger probably know more than I do.

But yes, most US TV is crap.

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Fulc -- But you also have TV shows which only last two seasons.  Extras, The Office...I loved both those shows and they up and quit after two seasons each!  And Absolutely Fabulous...with years and years between seasons?  That's just cruel, man. lol

I couldn't handle TV like that.  Here in the states what usually hooks audiences are the characters, so as long as the writers stay true to them and don't contradict past continuity, we're pretty forgiving (for the most part).  Look at the US version of The Office.  Just started its 9th season, still just as funny as it ever was, the characters are all still great, it's still well-written.  In the states, if a show continues to work, they'll continue to make it. 

It's not always about money.  When we get what we think is a good show, we demand more of it even if it's not killing in the ratings or raking in the money.  It's why shows like Supernatural stay on the air; they're not mass-audience shows, they're not killing it in the ratings war, but the audiences they do have are rabid and loyal, so they reward our loyalty by keeping it going.   

Although, still, there have been shows with such a rabid fanbase which were cancelled anyway.  Arrested Development, My Name is Earl and several others, all of which had large fan-bases and were highly acclaimed, but for some reason their host-channels simply decided to stop making them. hmm

Azzie -- I've never read the comic, so I haven't a clue. hmm

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Once they hit the prison in the comics, sh*t gets crazy and fast too. A lot of great, and important stuff happens within the prison but saying that, I can't see the TV show being like the comics in the prison - too much messed up stuff happens to be put on TV, unless they tell the viewer someway and beat around the bush.

The show doesn't follow the comics directly, it deals with things much more different than the comic does.


Warning: An example is below which has a spoiler in the first comic

Shane dies at the end of the first comic, the first one. They cut him out fast while the show thought that having him around longer with make more interesting TV (I'd say that is the answer). It really depends on what you prefer.

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@Lon- sorry, I thought that was one you read.  As for loyalty, Firefly fans got Serenity made.

I'd love to hear the strategy meetings for TV execs.  Just in general to see what they talk about.  "Girls 16-18 will love this show!"  "Men 27-28.5 will love THIS SHOW!" "LOUD NOISES!"

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I could never get into a entire series of The Walking Dead. I have got halfway through Season 2 but i just cant get into it. Dexter, rather is a show that has gripped from the first episode to the last.

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azathoth wrote:

Girls 16-18 will love this "

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UltraViolence wrote:

Haha yeah dan said it does tell a bit more as it goes on.

And alb bit of an inapropriate place to post that kinda info wink

But no Fair play it is good. I like how it doesn't call them zombies but walkers. Nice.

It is very character driven, that is what I really like plus the zombie makeup is awesome. I am a fan first of the comic then the series, but the series really holds its own:)

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LoudLon wrote:

Fulc -- But you also have TV shows which only last two seasons.  Extras, The Office...I loved both those shows and they up and quit after two seasons each!  And Absolutely Fabulous...with years and years between seasons?  That's just cruel, man. lol

I couldn't handle TV like that.  Here in the states what usually hooks audiences are the characters, so as long as the writers stay true to them and don't contradict past continuity, we're pretty forgiving (for the most part).  Look at the US version of The Office.  Just started its 9th season, still just as funny as it ever was, the characters are all still great, it's still well-written.  In the states, if a show continues to work, they'll continue to make it. 

It's not always about money.  When we get what we think is a good show, we demand more of it even if it's not killing in the ratings or raking in the money.  It's why shows like Supernatural stay on the air; they're not mass-audience shows, they're not killing it in the ratings war, but the audiences they do have are rabid and loyal, so they reward our loyalty by keeping it going.   


I beg to differ about the travesty known as The Office US.
It had 3 good seasons, season 1 was a shot-for-shot remake of the English version, season 2 immediately made Jim this untouchable hearthrob type and season 3 rapidly descended into typical American schmaltz. Ever since then it's been unbearably unfunny and the last season was godawful. At this point may I offer my sincerest apologies that we gave you Catherine Tate. It wasn't our fault. It was an experiment that went hideously wrong and we can only offer our most heartfelt reparations for that horrible hag we unleashed on your fine country. It was a terrible faus pas on our part and I, personally would like to apologise for her. I hope you can find it in your heart to forgive us as a nation for that horrible woman. It wasn't our fault, she slipped through the net and somehow managed to become manager of Dunder Mifflin. Again, I am deeply ashamed we didn't drown her at birth!!!

I would also like to take this opportunity to express my sincerest apologies for giving the world Coldplay.

Sorry.
Although, still, there have been shows with such a rabid fanbase which were cancelled anyway.  Arrested Development, My Name is Earl and several others, all of which had large fan-bases and were highly acclaimed, but for some reason their host-channels simply decided to stop making them. hmm

Azzie -- I've never read the comic, so I haven't a clue. hmm

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^ Shit, I've left one of my trademark rants in the middle of a quote again! Soz Lon, you 'll have to clean that up again! big_smile