Re: The Lords of Salem (2012)

The Creature wrote:

In an interview with Revolver, Rob Zombie stated his film will be coming out early 2013.

Oh man...Deja Vu.  Remember waiting years and years for Corpses to come out...kept getting delayed, hopes up...then dashed, but in the end was worth it.  Just hope the waiting game isn't a repeat with this one.

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^ Oh, man. Same here. 'The Lords Are Coming'......hopefully SOON.

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Alright, I now present to the HM.ca forums.....the trailer for The Lords of Salem! big_smile


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0j7K6-0Ak4

Thoughts?

edit - I would also like to point out that DirtyGirl wrote a great review of The Lords as well. I'm not finding it when I search for it, but I know it's around here somewhere...

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I don't much get excited for new horror these days but I have been and shall continue to be psyched for Lords of Salem.  I've heard nothing but good things and advanced reviews I've read say it's more like TDR Zombie than HO1KC or Halloween Zombie, which is a good thing in my book.  Really, really looking forward to this one.

I caught this trailer a couple weeks ago and thought it was very well done.  Some of the imagery borders on totemic.  It looks fantastic.

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Thanks Creature smile

Here it is....

http://www.horror-movies.ca/the-lords-of-salem-review/

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The trailer looks interesting.  Still excited for this.

Nice write up Dirty!  I just started reading it at the link you provided and realized I already had.

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Downloading right now..

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Watching it right now.

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^ Let us know what you think of it if you could, Alien!
I won't be able to see it in theaters myself, unfortunately. Flat broke and I need a job. big_smile

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Ghostseeker wrote:

The trailer looks interesting.  Still excited for this.

Nice write up Dirty!  I just started reading it at the link you provided and realized I already had.



Thanks Ghost!   smile

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@Creature-
You're not alone in the job category.  Apparently "Knife Monkey" is not a much sought after skill anymore, sad .

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Just finished watching it.  I've been very psyched for this film, and in many ways it delivers -- but in other ways, it doesn't.  It's VERY well-directed; I'm talking almost Kubrickian.  Yes, I'm saying Zombie's direction in many scenes is right up there with one of the all-time greatest filmmakers to have ever worked in the biz.  You might find that far-fetched or hard to swallow, but watch it and then try to tell me I'm lying.  Zombie doesn't rush anything and takes his time getting where he's going, allowing the story to unfold with heaps of slow, suspenseful tracking shots.  And there are a number of scenes of such striking visual elegance that I actually caught myself saying aloud several times "Damn, that's a beautiful shot."  I can't recall off-hand many, if any, hand-held shots.  I think the entire film was shot on steadicam, and this adds a certain counterbalance to what is for the most part a preposterous storyline.

But that's not to say the storyline isn't effective.  There's not a lot of story, I can say that much, but what story there is is played admirably straight-faced.  There's a lot of dialogue which could have come off as overly campy but the actors play it all without so much as a grin; if you'd have caught them with tongue in cheek even once, it would have thrown the whole film off. 

The actresses who play the three witch sisters -- Judy Geeson (better known as the snobby Brit neighbor from the show Mad About You), Patricia Quinn (Magenta from Rocky Horror Picture Show) and Dee Wallace (no elaboration needed) -- are all fantastic.  It's especially good to see Quinn on-screen again.  Bruce Davison turns in another typically solid supporting performance and the rest of the supporting players, including Ken Foree, Maria Conchita Alonso and Jeff Daniel Phillips (better known as the Geico cave man) are all believable, even if some aren't given as much screen time as others.  Meg Foster is also good, though to be honest she was completely unrecognizable.  I didn't even realize that was her in the role she played until the end credits.  Also commendable is that fact that for once in a Rob Zombie film, not every other word out of every character's mouth is "fuck."  I only counted a few F-bombs, from a filmmaker whose use of the word often rivals Tarantino's use of the N-word.

But as I said, there are some disappointments.  One of the main things I was looking forward to with this flick was the big screen return of Barbara Crampton, but I learned a few months ago her scenes had all been cut.  But that's actually not the case; she is in the film, but only for a few seconds, and with no lines.  Talk about a tease -- and a frustrating one, at that.  Others listed in the credits but who I don't remember seeing (their roles must have been either completely cut out or so small that I blinked and missed them) are Michael Berryman, Andrew Prine and Sid Haig. 

I'm not sure this next bit would be considered a spoiler, but just in case...

SPOILER WARNING (left click and drag below):

Sheri Moon does her best to bring life to the lead role, but the simple fact is that her character isn't all that interesting.  She's passive, a victim; I felt for her because of the things that happen to her, but I never found myself rooting for her because she made no effort whatsoever to combat the things happening to her.

END SPOILER 

There were also some holes in the story, but I'll refrain from discussing them until others have seen it.  Suffice to say that there are certain incidents which aren't clearly explained and/or weren't followed up on, and I was left with a number of questions.

All that said, I stil enjoyed it.  It's a slow ride, to be sure, but also an intriguing one, and is chock full of macabre imagery and often luscious cinematography.  Despite the disappointments I mentioned I do think this is Zombie's best overall film after The Devil Rejects -- which is interesting to me considering the two films couldn't possibly be more different from one another.  And while normally it takes more than some pretty shots to make up for a lacking story, the movie is so visually compelling that I've chosen to forgive it its story shortcomings.  I give it an 8/10.

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I am glad to hear you enjoyed it Lon.  You are absolutely right about there being some large plot holes.   But the film is so visually stunning that I really didn't care.  I loved Sherri moon's apartment and her wardrobe too.   Great movie but completely different than anything Zombie done before which shows that he is growing and evolving as a director. 

I was lucky enough to meet Patricia Quinn a week ago.  I told her how much I enjoyed the movie and how much I especially liked her and Dee Wallace in it.  She was completely surprised and happy to hear a fan saying they liked it because she had only read bad reviews so far.  She said thank you darling.  I wish you could hear me saying that in her drawn out British accent!  She also said I have the unfortunate luck of only doing really awful films.  Which I seemed quite surprised at!  Haha...  She was very much a Diva and a true pleasure to talk to.   

As for Sid Haig, I think he was the specialist or professor that was consulted.   He didn't look like he normally does at all.  So what did you think about that psychedelic ending?   I am dying to watch it again!

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I liked the ending, but it took having to sit and think about it to remember that...

SPOILER
...it was supposed to be taking place at a concert.  It took a minute after it ended before I remembered Foree saying on the radio that the Lords would be having a free concert, and when it showed the arena or theater (whatever it was it took place in) and there were very few people in the audience, it didn't register with me at first because I was expecting there to be a band on-stage and all that.  There had been so much mention of this band The Lords that when the credits started to role I thought, "Wait, what about that concert Foree advertised?  Huh...I guess that WAS the concert.  But where was the band?  Maybe the witches were the band?  But where were their instruments?  And how come no one in the audience, small as it may have been, ran out screaming at the sight of a demon baby being born on the stage?"
lol

But again, I don't mind the holes and questions left unanswered like I normally would because the movie is SO visually impressive and SO magnificently directed that I can't bring myself to hold its faults against it.

Cool that you got to meet Patricia Quinn.  If it had been me I would have totally embarrassed myself, feeling compelled to tell her how her look in Rocky Horror always made me want to go, uh...shake hands with the unemployed, if you catch my meaning. lol

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The Creature wrote:

^ Let us know what you think of it if you could, Alien!
I won't be able to see it in theaters myself, unfortunately. Flat broke and I need a job. big_smile

Hey Creature. smile
I posted my thoughts here.

http://www.horror-movies.ca/Forum/viewt … 09#p654409

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@ Alien and LoudLon, very interesting reviews! Before I couldn't wait until the film came out in theaters, but now I can't wait until the damn DVD is released. It's all good though. Either way, I'm going to be seeing Mr. Zombie's latest film. I'm glad that most HM members that have seen it are digging it so far. I like hearing that about any film.

@ Azzy, hang in there, my monkey friend!

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The Creature wrote:

I can't wait until the damn DVD is released. It's all good though.

Yeah same here.
I like reading that it's more visually focused and artsy than the others. Knowing how great Zombie draws it sure will be quite a trip!!!

Thanks for all your thoughts. Nice to read.

The Hilarious LoudLon wrote:

uh...shake hands with the unemployed,


MWAHAHAHA man, I'll be laughing about that for hours. lol

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I need to see this!  Its limited release here where I am...not sure if it will open up.  I don't wanna wait...but even if it is a wider release, I don't go to movies much.