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LoudLon wrote:

I realized in high school that my brain simply wasn't built for science.  I barely passed Freshman chemistry, and managed to juuuuuuust squeak by in every science class the rest of my school career.  The only thing I came even close to sucking at as badly was advanced math.  I kicked ass in Algebra and Algebra II, but my junior year I ended with a C- in geometry and the only reason I didn't fail pre-calc my senior year was because my teacher liked me and knew I was doing my best, but the shit just wasn't sinking in. lol

I'm the same way with cars.  I've tried learning about mechanics and what-not but my brain just doesn't retain that kind of stuff.  Back in the '90s I helped my roommate realign the timing on his Grand Am, which was a fairly complicated process.  By the time we were finished and had put everything back together, I couldn't have told you the first thing about what we'd just done if you'd held a gun to my head. lol

But when it comes to music, the arts, philosophy, writing, etc -- stuff that requires creativity and abstract thinking -- I've always done very well with.

I was that way with math.  I was once even sent to "the visiting teacher (euphemism for school shrink) because of the block.  I was doing well at every subject except math and at math, I was conhsistently failing.

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Continuing with that theme, I'me the total opposite.  Except for statistics(?), I'm a math and science geek.  But I'm horrible at languages, writing, and other art-type things.  I'm creative as a donkey unless I'm trying to rewire a home theatre with dental floss, tin cans, and a Victoria's Secret's thong.

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Now THAT'S something I'm truely a MASTER of. Victoria Secret thongs. lol

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Love this one...

“I worry that, especially as the Millennium edges nearer, pseudoscience and superstition will seem year by year more tempting, the siren song of unreason more sonorous and attractive. Where have we heard it before? Whenever our ethnic or national prejudices are aroused, in times of scarcity, during challenges to national self-esteem or nerve, when we agonize about our diminished cosmic place and purpose, or when fanaticism is bubbling up around us - then, habits of thought familiar from ages past reach for the controls.

The candle flame gutters. Its little pool of light trembles. Darkness gathers. The demons begin to stir.”

― Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark

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Sweet looking. Reminds me of Aztec/Mayan sculptures.

It's the Node 2 thing on the ISS.

http://www.esa.int/var/esa/storage/images/esa_multimedia/images/2014/04/node_2/14478322-1-eng-GB/Node_2_fullwidth.jpg?1397749455565

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After Long Search, Scientists Find Protein That Lets Sperm And Egg Hook Up

Very, very, very cool. smile

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/1 … 61270.html

http://i.huffpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/254176/slide_254176_1590440_free.jpg

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NASA Stereo images are awesome. First time we saw the whole sun with that. And me likes a lot. big_smile

http://stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov/360blog/20110104_304.gif

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Probably not many of you notice but the shirt he's got on is from the TV show Firefly. Captain Mal Fillion will be proud. Nice publicity Whedon. lol

http://i.space.com/images/i/000/038/390/i620/swanson-iss-instagram-cupola-2.jpg?1397144759

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kXnPunk wrote:

Love this one...

“I worry that, especially as the Millennium edges nearer, pseudoscience and superstition will seem year by year more tempting, the siren song of unreason more sonorous and attractive. Where have we heard it before? Whenever our ethnic or national prejudices are aroused, in times of scarcity, during challenges to national self-esteem or nerve, when we agonize about our diminished cosmic place and purpose, or when fanaticism is bubbling up around us - then, habits of thought familiar from ages past reach for the controls.

The candle flame gutters. Its little pool of light trembles. Darkness gathers. The demons begin to stir.”

― Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark

I see where he's coming from, but sometimes pseudo-science can be fun.  Personally I don't think we NEED to know everything there is to know about the universe.  I like the idea that there isn't a logical explanation for every single little thing in the world, even if that single little thing is something completely ridiculous.  For example:

I was dejected when it was revealed that Bigfoot was a fraud.  I never once believed he actually existed (well, not since I was a kid, anyway) but I remember when I was younger, how the notion of a Bigfoot sighting was awesome, and my friends and I would go into the local woods and hide behind trees and bushes just waiting to see a Bigfoot.  So when the guy who made the infamous 8mm film of Bigfoot strolling along and looking over his shoulder came clean several years back and said it was a hoax, it made me feel kind of bad for the world.  I mean, it was a friggin' Bigfoot, not the meaning of life.  Why couldn't we just have that one, silly little mystery?

I don't know.  Maybe that's why I've never been good with science.  Maybe deep down, I don't WANT to be good with science, because it ruins the fun of not knowing.

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Oh but it's FAR from a fraud.
The Science mind would search even farther than that film.
I see not just the old Science but just about everything the same way. I believe. Forever. Nothing can ever crush that.

I know I live in a Fantasy world but hey, I the only one living in it. A a thousand billion of other wild creatures so. lol

That's why I still pump up SETI data which I've been doing for years. I believe. big_smile

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@LoudLon - I see where you're coming from when you say that some pseudoscience can be fun. Your story of being dejected when the hoax of that classic Bigfoot video was revealed reminds me of a kid finding out that Santa Clause isn't real (and I think we all know that feeling...'cept maybe Punk here. lol -- Just kiddin', bro!). I personally love mysteries. It feels great to be able to dabble in them and have so intriguing a possibility to think about...it's full-filling, in a way. Although I have found the scientific world is rife with grand mysteries far more great, intricate, subtle, and just flat-out awesome than any of the cultural, terrestrial mythic fascinations we have today.

Like, for example, we only understand approximately 4.9% of how the universe is accounted for, due to its visible material content. The other 95.1% of the universe? Well, we simply just don't KNOW how all of that mass-energy is accounted for. We call the constituent of this very large percentage, "Dark Matter", which includes, "Dark Energy", the universal force that is expanding space-time and pushing galaxies (including ours) farther away from each other. The term "dark" reflects our ignorance of what it is. See, we can't see it with our telescopes, and it doesn't emit or asorb any light. We can only see its gravitational effects on matter and radiation. This presents us with a fantastic mystery. Where in the FUCK and how in the FUCK and what in the FUCK is this 95.1% of the invisible universe ?

And in science...there are so many more mysteries to be discussed (and discovered, I'm sure). If you end up reading Hawkings' book, you should be introduced to some of the other ones (and in a much more elegant and organized explanation that I'm clearly unable to articulate lol ). I've read A Brief History of Time, but it's been a long time...I remember it being exciting though.

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I said it but I'll repeat. I believe. Yes even in Santa Claus. Damn bastard eats all my cookies and drinks all my milk in the fridge. You might be kidding but I'm not The Creature. lol

But yes that's all these mysteries and the good stuff and what keeps me hooked up that much on this whole Scentific enchilada is that we solve a bunch of them each day. And that's cool and it'll keep going for a damn long time. Soooo much stuff we don't know yet. And we don't even have to get away from anywhere other than our own body. So much we still don't have any idea about. MYSTERY!!! big_smile

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New Fossil Provides Insight Into Shark Evolution: http://www.iflscience.com/plants-and-an … -evolution

First Potentially Habitable Earth-Sized Planet Confirmed: It May Have Liquid Water: http://phys.org/news/2014-04-potentiall … iquid.html

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kXnPunk wrote:

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I said it but I'll repeat. I believe. Yes even in Santa Claus. Damn bastard eats all my cookies and drinks all my milk in the fridge. You might be kidding but I'm not The Creature. lol

But yes that's all these mysteries and the good stuff and what keeps me hooked up that much on this whole Scentific enchilada is that we solve a bunch of them each day. And that's cool and it'll keep going for a damn long time. Soooo much stuff we don't know yet. And we don't even have to get away from anywhere other than our own body. So much we still don't have any idea about. MYSTERY!!! big_smile

Scientific enchiladas are my favorite!!!

And Punk, that Node 2 ISS thing does kind of remind me of some ancient Aztec/Mayan artifact...it looks a bit like a mandala! The article concerning the protein on the surface of sperm cells and the egg was very interesting, too.

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HA!!! You just found that??? Saw this a few weeks back. But it's great stuff.

I'll quote Sagan on that one. smile

"Since, in the long run, every planetary civilization will be endangered by impacts from space, every surviving civilization is obliged to become spacefaring--not because of exploratory or romantic zeal, but for the most practical reason imaginable: staying alive... If our long-term survival is at stake, we have a basic responsibility to our species to venture to other worlds."

- Carl Sagan, Pale Blue Dot, 1994

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^ Really?? And here I was thinking it was hot of the press. lol

Good Sagan quote, Sir Punk. And it's very true, too. If one ponders the fate of the human race on this planet, the inevitable conclusion is certain death. Not only are there terrestrial factors to worry about (disease, weather-related disasters, nuclear war, etc.), but there's giant comets/asteroids and other space junk, the sun is eventually going to burn out, and we're on a collision course with the Andromeda galaxy. The two latter mentions are far, far off in time, but the space junk impacting the earth is a real threat. Becoming a multi-planet species is worth developing plans and technological capabilities for if we are to be concerned with self-preservation. Asteroid deflection technology is also very much worth exploring!

Here's a new episode from fish paleontologist, Neil Shubbin's, 3-Part series: http://video.pbs.org/video/2365203793/? … nerfishpbs

"Your Inner Reptile" is the name of the episode. I know I'll be watching this later on. Episode One, "Your Inner Fish" is located just a bit farther down on the page, which was a pretty cool first episode. The show explores the homologous relations we have with ancestors in our evolutionary past.

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@Creature- The problem with 'dark matter' is that you can't see it.  We can infer all types of stuff, like hydrogen-spectrum absorption from dust clouds, but we don't really know how much cloud is there.  And of course, black holes.  Those suckers are massive.

I must have missed something, somewhere, 'cause not being able to see 95% of the mass of the universe doesn't really surprise me (though I thought it was 80%, but... meh).

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azathoth wrote:

@Creature- The problem with 'dark matter' is that you can't see it.  We can infer all types of stuff, like hydrogen-spectrum absorption from dust clouds, but we don't really know how much cloud is there.  And of course, black holes.  Those suckers are massive.

I must have missed something, somewhere, 'cause not being able to see 95% of the mass of the universe doesn't really surprise me (though I thought it was 80%, but... meh).

Well, I consider you to be a well-studied dude in all things cosmology, so there's probably a reason why you're not surprised. But me, I'm completely wow'd by the fact that our knowledge of the universe is so tiny in comparison to the immensity of all the "non-visible stuff". It's cool to think about.

edit - Oh, and I should specify that my feeling of wonder concerning dark matter isn't just the fact that we can't see it, but that we don't exactly know what different particles of matter it is composed of.

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Your douche-bag brain, courtesy of the "I Fucking Love Science" Facebook page.

http://i1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii597/creaturekillswell/YourBrain_zpsc63a55a3.png

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ROTFLMFAO!!! lol

Good one.

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^ Glad you like, P.

Researchers Create Methylation Maps of Neanderthals and Denisovans: http://phys.org/news/2014-04-methylatio … umans.html

New Killer Sponges Found in Deep Sea: http://newswatch.nationalgeographic.com … w-species/

Meat-eating sponges.
Yeah. As my grandfather used to say, "There's stuff out there."

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@TheFeaturedCreature-

I'd love it if 'dark matter' was some funky stuff.  Anti-matter, zero-energy fluctuations, other weird exotic matter stuff.

They all would make a nice banana split sundae.  smile

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Mwahahaha lol

This is wild.

Amazonian mushroom eats plastic (Pestalotiopsis microspora)

http://www.herbcyclopedia.com/index.php … microspora

http://www.herbcyclopedia.com/images/herbcyclopedia/fungi_morgue.jpg

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@Azzy - Oooooooh, an anti-matter banana split sundae, that would just be the death of me! lol

@Punk - Interesting little article. I didn't know there were particular types of plastics that were bio-degradable.

Speaking of funky matter stuff, here's a short read concerning the 'tetraquark':

How A New Discovery In the World of Quarks Could Change Everything:  http://www.fromquarkstoquasars.com/the- … particles/

I wanna buy the book now. Certainly gives us a certain humility in our perspectives on time:
The Oldest Living Things in the World: http://www.brainpickings.org/index.php/ … sman-book/

The new Cosmos is on tonight, so hopefully I'll be watching that in a few hours (the TV is being hogged right now).

and this is sickening sad -- 4 Years After Gulf Oil Spill, Wildlife Still Dying:
http://www.mnn.com/earth-matters/wilder … till-dying

http://i1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii597/creaturekillswell/Pelican_zps19613b1f.jpg

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Way cool that Quartz thingy man. I know what the future will be. It's a cell called Punkizatorinuslag and everything will be simple like a finger snap. lol

Love that quote from the Oldest Living book: "The role as an artist [is] to answer some questions, but to ask many more."

Cosmos is freaky tonight. Damn lead, screw you Paterson has come over. big_smile

6 freaking years man, is that a long research or what??? And it even took longer, crazy the dedication he had to find the Earth's age, nuts. smile

http://leadbasedpaintguide.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Lead-Poisoning.jpg

And yeah oil spills are such a disaster for nature, takes a damn loooooooooooooong while to be fixed and of course the companies responsible don't seem to care as much as they should these bastards...