Terminator 5 Story Revealed, New Terminator Details

Herner Klenthur

The Rock Terminator 5

In The Rundown Arnold Schwarzenegger had a cameo where he passed the ‘action hero’ mantle to The Rock and now it seems they will do battle on the big screen as Dwayne ‘The Rock Johnson’ takes on one of his darkest and most significant roles yet.

That is right it would seem as Chris reported earlier in the week that The Rock is the new Terminator in the upcoming Terminator 5 movie. As much as I love Dwayne Johnson I am not remotely a fan of this idea. The Rock has definitely lined himself up as the action star of the new generation and my issue is not with him as much as the fact we simply do not need a big name actor to star as the next Terminator.

Casting Dwayne Johnson as the Terminator in Terminator 5 will put too much emphasis on the person and not enough on a great script and a great character. The sheer fact that the writers are reportedly writing the story to accommodate The Rock makes my point exactly.

Being big, muscle bound and popular with Fast and the Furious fans should not be the criteria for the next Terminator. It should be about making a good movie not about trying to draw in new fans by casting a fan favorite. We saw how poorly this worked out in Terminator Salvation when Christian Bale fresh from playing Batman was cast as John Conner in Terminator Salvation. Did it work? Sure it was ok but in my opinion it could have been truly spectacular had they of chosen a better lead instead of trying to cash in on Batman’s popularity.

I will also go as far as to say I also feel that its time for Schwarzenegger to give up his role as the Terminator. Arnold Schwarzenegger will always be the original killing machine from the future but he is simply not capable of carrying the role anymore in Terminator 5. With respect to him he is too old. I am however not saying Arnold should not be in the film since I think his involvement is critical just not as a Terminator.

Spoilers from this point on. So don’t read if you don’t want to hear what Terminator 5 is rumored to be about and my own personal speculation on how it will unfold.

A few months back I had a lengthy conversation about the future of Terminator 5 and I pitched to my friend Chris my idea on how the Terminator 5 movie could work without Arnold as the Terminator but still including him while accommodating his age.

We know based off various comments made by Arnold that the upcoming Terminator movie will have a twist as big as Terminator 2 if not bigger. You all know in the first film Arnold was the villain and in the second film he was the hero. Well I predicted a few months ago that in Terminator 5 Arnold will play the human that inspired the creation of the machine.

Seems the writers Patrick Lussier ( Drive Angry 3D) and Laeta Kalogridis ( Avatar ) are thinking along the same lines. The Examiner somehow managed to get details on the script and outlines what they know about the story;

Incredibly, Arnold Schwarzenegger may not play the role of a machine in the next film, but a potentially heroic human figure in or close to the Connor family. One theory is that Schwarzenegger’s remarkable ability to protect the Connor family in the 1940s or 1950s with antiquated weaponry by today’s standards ultimately inspired the machines to develop a terminator in his likeness that was eventually sent to 1984 when Sarah Connor was first targeted for termination.

We know that John Conner sent the machine back to the past but we also know that Sarah Conner was terrified of it. So whatever connection Arnold’s human character has to the Conner’s it has to either be in the past or in the future after Sarah Conner’s death to keep the timeline straight. Sarah Conner had no involvement and Conner may have but only in the distant future.

My thinking is Terminator 5 should pick up right after Terminator 3 where Conner is in the bunker where he is rescued by a survivalist who takes him from the bunker and teaches him how to survive and wage war against the machines. Simply put Arnold’s character would be the first member of the resistance turning John Conner into the leader he becomes. 

Doing so keeps the continuity of the timeline and allows Arnold to be in the movie without a CGI body double. Arnold as a tough as nails survivalist who ‘saw the end coming’ and prepared for it would to me work wonders and would without question be a solid twist of events.

As far as The Rock and how he works into this timeline I say with respect we don’t need him. As far as the ‘based in the 1950s versus a futuristic full on war I say give us the war.  What do you think of Terminator 5? Are you excited to see it happen or could you care less? How would you make the timeline work? Hit the comments below.



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      1. Fisty June 25, 2013 at 1:59 am


        • Andre June 25, 2013 at 4:40 pm

          More like Hell NO!!!

        • M February 11, 2015 at 11:01 pm

          I have to agree with the author, and amazingly my idea was very similar (guess LMU paid off). From the trailer tease, I assumed Arnold as Human ‘must’ve been the inspiration for the terminator robot from Movie 1 and 2. Movie 3 was an extended car chase with a hot bi chick. The Bale movie lost me before it came to theaters, never saw it. I think the Rock is too likeable as a hero character, an unknown WWE guy should be the new ‘robot’. As for time lines, shouldn’t the movie progress from 1984 and move forward? It’s odd that 1940s and 1950s were mentioned.

      2. Joe June 25, 2013 at 4:47 am

        From the perspective of a T-series fan. Moving forward, which was the original intent, is where the series needs to go. We have seen progression till now and there is no need to back up and try to fill gaps. T3 was a complete let down from start to finish. Yes it had great action sequences and the plot was manageable, if in the correct hands. That didn’t happen. T4 was to be the start of a great series, however it wasn’t Bale they were banking on in 4. Yes Bale was the new face of the terminator movies, but 4 was banking on Worthington. He was to be the jumpstart that keeps Reese alive to align with Conner. Comming off Avater and Clash of the Titans. He was quickly becoming a face that everyone wanted to see. But longevity was conner/Bale. The original theme was to show the rise in female leadership in 5, which closed to gaps. Recovery time for conners heart transplant and to explain why the female terminator.

        As said, The Rock and Arnold are not needed for 5 and or 6. What you need is a good writer and a good director.

        “There is no fate but what we make”

        • josh August 8, 2014 at 10:54 pm

          correct we don,t need gaps filled just carry on to the point of the first terminator being sent back. this wraps the whole time loop story complete.. because kyel reese as we know is john connors father from the future .

      3. Mike New June 25, 2013 at 5:58 am

        That sounds pretty cool.

      4. steven jonee June 25, 2013 at 6:06 am

        Couldn’t possibly agree any more than I already do with every word said here

      5. Stephen June 25, 2013 at 9:02 am

        I’m a massive Rock fan, but I also see your point and like you very unsure, but we will just have to see and let him have his chance. Also, I agree and hope that Arnie plays an old man, human, and the inspiration for the Terminator. I also think, by bringing in the Rock, they are planning a fresh batch of movies, total over-kill-load.

      6. Shawn June 25, 2013 at 11:12 am

        UGH!!!!! This douche-bag ruins everything…..He needs to stop making movies! Now he’s going to turn the Terminator franchise into a joke. And I want linda Hamilton back!!!!

        • Sky January 16, 2014 at 6:51 pm

          Total agreement.

      7. Bob marly June 25, 2013 at 12:08 pm

        this is just a rumor guys calm down

      8. Brandon June 25, 2013 at 1:04 pm

        As much as I like Arnold as the terminator, I just don’t think it would work now.. He is 65 years old now.. How are you going to explain a very old looking T-1000, unless you go with the living tissue ages, but not the terminator itself.. I like the idea of sending a T-1000 back to the 40s or 50s.. Not so sure about the rock though..

        • Cameron billingsley June 15, 2014 at 10:51 pm

          Really dude? Arnold NEVER played a T-1000; he played a T-800 which in the first two films was called a cyber fine systems model 101…. which the name change can be explained by the altered events between the first two films and the following films (change small parts of the past, even though shit still happened little things like the model name can and will change

      9. Allen June 25, 2013 at 2:41 pm

        In going with the idea that Arnold plays a human character and a survivalist I think that might be an interesting plot twist of sorts. Obviously not much of a “twist” per se, but I could see it opening at the end of T3 in the bunker and the human character Arnold somehow comes and saves them. This would be near the beginning of the film so not much of a “twist”… But the fact that John just saw the Arnold Terminator character explode a little bit ago…he might be frightened just as Sarah was frightened when she first saw the Terminator in T2. And it goes from there.. And as you stated…this human character becomes the inspiration for what gets sent back in time, time and time again.

        I think that might be what you are indicating already here, Herner. But I can really envision this being an interesting way to develop a few more entries into the series. It would work with Arnold being older I think and this human, survivalist Arnold character would have been preparing for “the end” much like folks were preparing for “the end” in 2012. It would have to happen sort of at random though…not like this survivalist character knew exactly where to find him or anything.

        I can’t get behind going into the 40s or 50s though. Nor can I really get behind the Rock in any role here. I’ll agree with what was said about it being a poor choice to write the story around him. I guess we have no choice so I will still anticipate seeing whatever the final result is. But I’ll disagree with those two points.

        Thanks for reading my thoughts. Take care everyone…

      10. Maurice Atwood June 25, 2013 at 4:12 pm

        Arnold is the Terminator franchise. His not being involved in T4 is the reason it didn’t do as well and I thought it was a good movie. That being said give the Rock a chance. He has done remarkably well since getting into acting. I think the idea of Arnold being a human is fantastic and would bring closure to Arnold being a Terminator in a nice transition. The Rock being in 5 ensures there is a T6, because Arnold is on his last legs of stardom while Dwayne is just getting started. If you really want to make this Terminator fan happy I say hire Christopher Nolan and reboot the entire franchise after Arnold is completely done with the original series.

        • Jay Powell March 6, 2014 at 11:05 pm

          I wouldn’t put The Rock down at all. How bad could he be? Just think… As we type this, Ben Affleck’s running around with a Batman suit on. Thank you. Thank you… I’ll be here all week..

      11. Cenzo June 25, 2013 at 5:14 pm

        I think T5 will indeed have Arnold as an old human character, but I do not like the idea of The Rock as a new terminator. For one, he’s already in his 40s. If they bring in anyone new, I would suggest an unknown 20 something, so they can roll out some flicks over the years.

        Also, Bale as John Conner was great in my opinion. I hope he’s in line to be in at least 2 more films before Conner is supposed to die at the hands of a “Arnold-like” terminator.

        Finally, don’t read this is you feel I’ll spoil the series… but at the end of T4 Marcus Wright supposedly gives his heart to Conner so he can live… that’s what they want you to think. But I think Conner dies. Instead, they re-face Marcus Wright’s body with Conner’s face. Thus, pretending to keep Conner alive and leading the resistance, but as the super-human hybrid cyborg that Marcus Wright was. Basically a face-swap. haha… that’s a twist.

        • Cameron billingsley June 15, 2014 at 11:03 pm

          In regards to your thoughts on a face swap of Conner and Wright, are you 14 or something? That’s a terrible idea and not in story with what we know of it, that idea is more like some dumbassed anime cartoon….. terminator is better than that.

      12. Dennis Francis June 25, 2013 at 7:41 pm

        As long as he doesnt play Sergeant Candy….(deleted scene T3)

        • Herner Klenthur June 25, 2013 at 9:35 pm

          I am not sure I know that cameo.

      13. Brandon June 25, 2013 at 9:36 pm

        If you took it to the late 50s, Linda Hamilton could come back and play Sarah Connors mother or grandmother.. If you have it set in the 60s – Arnold could protect a very young Sarah..

        • Leon S Kennedy April 17, 2014 at 1:14 am

          @Brandon, this is BORING. Same old story no matter what year. Terminator comes back to protect someone. It’s just getting on a loop now and not moving forward as a story anymore. boring. And then Arnold every time with the leather jacket, boots & sunglasses…It’s just the same thing over & over again. Don’t get me wrong! I adored 1 & 2, but I started noticing too much repetition in the plot.

      14. Deco June 25, 2013 at 9:58 pm

        let arnold be the survivalist and have lou ferrigno( whos still in really good shape) be the terminator sent back in time and inevitably kills arnold…poetic justice for taking the mr olympia title lol

      15. Joseph Lucas June 25, 2013 at 10:19 pm


        • Cameron billingsley June 15, 2014 at 11:06 pm

          Oh, you must have a guy crush on rock.

      16. Henry June 26, 2013 at 2:58 am

        Mmm, I love the Rock and he’s an awesome charismatic all rounder actor. I can see where this article author is coming from about adding the Rock into the Terminator “suit”. I’ll still be eager to watch the movie regardless.

        I remember about a year ago there were people writing their opinions about how the T5 storyline should go. Well I gave my two cents and it was pretty much along the lines of the currently elderly looking Arnie being the “goodie goodie” scientist, and elderly looking Robert Patrick being the “baddie” scientist. I also brought up in my opinionated storyline that T5 shows John Connor giving the order to the elderly Arnie to send back another of his terminators into the 1984 past to ensure that Reese is not killed and Sarah is not captured and institutionalised. As soon as elderly Arnie sends off this terminator into the past to complete the mission, immediately there’s a time amendment and we see both elderly Reese and Sarah appear in T5 alive and well. This gives the fans the movie of a lifetime being able to bring back all the best characters of the terminator franchise.

        • Cameron billingsley June 15, 2014 at 11:11 pm

          You would go bankrupt as a screen write, I think you would be the only person wanting to watch that. And it makes zero sense to a story where skynet (a self aware computer intelligence with automated manufacturing capabilities) build terminators.

      17. writerscabinet June 26, 2013 at 11:42 am

        Don’t people realise they can keep Arnie young by doing CGI on his face, like they did with Bridges in Tron Legacy? I can see the “old Arnie” plot happening, but I want him to stay a Terminator.

        • Cameron billingsley June 15, 2014 at 11:14 pm

          Even in the old stories written by licensed writers for the terminator had the CS model 101 (T-800) based off of a man (Arnold)

      18. TJ June 26, 2013 at 11:49 am

        But Christian Bale didn’t ruin Terminator Salvation. Sam Worthington did.

        • Dennis Francis June 26, 2013 at 8:56 pm

          Go home your drunk

        • Herner Klenthur June 26, 2013 at 9:59 pm

          I thought Sam worthington was the redeeming fact about Salvation

        • Cameron billingsley June 15, 2014 at 11:19 pm

          When I see Bale I usually play pretends its not really him,….. Worthington was an amazing terminator; not only that, terminator salvation is in my opinion second only to terminator judgement day. Kyle Reese was spot on, the girl who played kathrine Brewster was way better than the previous poor actress. It was as solid a movie as they come, and very smart (unless you’re a dorky nerd who thinks you could do better but end up with crap).

      19. Mr Moore June 26, 2013 at 2:21 pm

        The Terminator and Terminator 2 = the terminator film series. T2 ends the story well and they should have left it there. Why does T3, T4 and now T5 exist…..money. That is simply the only reason for making endless sequels. Its lazy film making. Make something new and leave terminator alone. The story has been told.

        • kirk December 16, 2013 at 4:14 pm

          T3 exists because judgement day is inevitable, so the story can’t end at T2. And T4 exists because T3 was similar to T2 only in T3 there is an even more advanced terminator trying to kill John Connor. And T5 exists because .. you’ll have to find out

          Hope this helps to explain things

        • Cameron billingsley June 15, 2014 at 11:24 pm

          Sorry chap,… it’s not about money because neither 3 or 4 grossed very much at all. It’s about continuing a beloved story, a story that had been carried on in comics and books. (In some of these stories Arnold was in fact a human that the CS 101 (T-800) was based on.

        • Jack June 17, 2014 at 12:06 pm

          In resp to someone claiming that making another Terminator movie “isn’t about money”…. it is absolutely about money.
          Both Terminator 3 & 4 cost in excess of $200 million each to produce. The fact that neither did that well at the box office wasn’t part of the plan. Studios don’t drop that kind of investment into these films with no expectation getting it back. Infact, if these big buget movies don’t gross atleast 3x’s what they cost to produce.. they’re considered to be a ‘flop’ by industry standards. Jus sayin.

      20. Abdullah June 26, 2013 at 10:33 pm

        i believe what the franchise really needs is a good director say josh whedon, for instance.

      21. bob June 26, 2013 at 11:25 pm

        I like the ideas in your article, but what I read elsewhere is arnold will be a terminator again.
        Also they are not going to do the 40’50’s story.
        The 2 writers writing this have never written anything good, so dont get your hopes up.
        and they have no director but are completing the script.
        All good directors want to have script approval, I read also this is why justin lin left the project.
        The focus on this movie is Arnold a new guy as the bad terminator, ( I dont think the rock is right for the role) and chasing someone.
        there will not be a intelligent story, or a good director, and those 2 are the most important.
        T-5 will suck.
        Annapurna refuses to allow a TSCC movie, so Tscc fans are going to boycott T-5 regardless.
        We will wait for the redbox and maybe check it out for $1 :-)
        Annapurna thinks TSCC somehow hurt T-4 at the box office ?? duh it was a horrible story and movie.
        Make something good and it will do good, make standard crap and they wont, it is simple.

        T-5 will suck.

      22. Fatchy June 28, 2013 at 1:57 am

        I loved Sam Worthington’s character and I really would like to see him back.

        • bob June 28, 2013 at 11:25 pm

          annapurna is going to ignore T-4, so forget about seeing Sam W.
          a date for release has been announced as june 26 2015……….?? lol 2 years to make the movie??
          “but the film is
          expected to launch a brand new standalone trilogy rather than continue where 2009’s semi-disastrous “Terminator: Salvation” left off.”
          I don’t think annapurna has a clue about what T fans actually want, and I don’t think they know how to make a good Terminator movie.
          This will be a typical “formula” movie, cgi, effects, explosions, and low IQ story.
          T-5 will suck.

      23. Jamie Taylor July 2, 2013 at 6:44 am

        your all forgetting that arnie was in T3 ok you would only know that if you watch the special features/Deleted scene’s on the dvd but still he played a part as a soldier who was to be the face of the terminator and any way it’s stupid to bad mouth a film that hasn’t even been made yet so i say wait till you see the film then you can praise or bitch about it till your heart’s content

      24. Jamie Taylor July 2, 2013 at 6:49 am

        well that’s what i think any way

      25. ron July 2, 2013 at 11:29 pm

        I’m a huge terminator fan and always will be but the rocks all wrong for a future terminator.I think Arnold in a human role is a great idea as a scientist or survive list? I do like the rock but not for this,I agree it should be someone new,a fresh mean looking actor slash bodybiulder….and needs to be even bigger than Arnold’s version to give it a new mean ass look. Remember Arnold was much bigger 10 years Pryor to the first film…anyway,what ever they decide,I’ll be there when terminator 5 opens in theaters.

      26. FlipMode July 9, 2013 at 6:51 am

        The Rock? OMG movie casting crews, do your fn job and find a suitable character to play a machine! Hell, John Cena would make a better terminator because his personality is equal to a robot and ironically his entire build matches the square metal shell of the terminator as we know him. (not that I am saying to cast him, but you get the point). The Rock is too egg headed in shape to be one lol. This is going to be a mistake. Back to near bankruptcy again noobs (learn your lesson from Bale yet…obviously not!). I am not bashing the rock because I do not like him…but not a terminator, change his roll and make him a badass NEW character that is on John’s side, or hell even make him a human that works for Skynet (there are bastards in the future too I assume?). Also I hope we get to see more of the advanced fem-bots, wouldn’t make sense to not have them after TSCC. After I post this I will totally think of a better Terminator actor than John Cena, but it goes to show you an initial response to a casting decision!

      27. Kirk July 10, 2013 at 1:55 pm

        I’m a terminator fan. I really hope T5 continues from T4 because I’d like to see the terminators lose their advantage later on through their unnecessary invention i.e. lasers which the Russians could easily reverse engineer like with many other technologies in history. I think that’s why the machines had to fall back on using time travel – to undo their mistake! Though I’m not a big fan of any of the films starring the Rock, I’m sure if he does play the role of the terminator he will do a good job, my only concern is how the film will finish, and will it make sense? Not that time travel does lol. As much as I’d like to see John Connor defeat the T1000 and the TX again but on his own like he did with Arnold in T4 I just think if he did it would be too late for humans to win the war at that point but we’ll see.

      28. StFual July 11, 2013 at 4:31 pm

        McG ruined T4. Lets invite John Connor and his dad into our secret headquarters so we can kill them. Or we could just kill them immediately . Here’s a subroutine for all terminators in T5. You have explosive fuel cells and can punch through walls. You don’t need to throw anyone across the room. If you get anywhere near John Connor punch him hard in the face or blow yourself up.

        • Octavio (@octavio8g) September 24, 2013 at 5:01 pm

          Brilliant!!! I also agree Sam W. and Christian B. did not ruin the movie it was McG. Just like he ruins all the other movies.

      29. Lymond July 11, 2013 at 6:37 pm

        I want the future war! The going way back in the past before JD to kill the young Connors plot line is old and tired. I am a long term fan who wants to see the war as conveyed by James Cameron in T1 and T2. If time travel must be involved it would be better if Skynet gave up on trying to specifically kill the Connor family lineage and instead sends the known popular T-800s back in time from the point Skynet is defeated to prevent their defeat. Skynet on a desperate attempt should send a slew of T-800s back in time to kill Connor and all of his resistance team , sending them back to say around the time Reece first gets the photo of Sarah thus the influx of so many machines. They could even throw in a prototype T-1000 with little screen time at the tail end. The large amount of T-800s or T-888s could be coming from a few decades ahead, thus why Connor must learn about the time technology and eventually send Reece back. The Rock can be a mute T8 they just happen to run into during the chaos. The TX could just be some software specs Connor stumbles upon. Arnold and The Rock could be these real humans, randomly captured by Skynet being used as human templates. Of course they’ve had Arnold a long time thus his age. thus explains why Skynet is using Arnold’s DNA and genetic make up to model so many of the T800s. John Connor could rescue Arnold’s character from Skynet and finally form a real bond with the true figure he looked up to as child. This would be my story idea if the power were in my famdom hands…Sadly it is not.

      30. kirk July 11, 2013 at 9:44 pm

        I agree with that, in the Sarah Connor chronicles the cybernetic robots appearance and their personality to some extent is based around humans so I am expecting to see Arnold as a human being at some point and maybe Cameron. I want to see John’s face when he sees Arnie walking in his bunker and not knowing if he’s an infiltrator for Skynet or on his side. I’d be disappointed if John got to know him by rescuing him.

        Lymond, the influx of machines you mentioned if it was in T3 was I think just a nightmarish vision and not something which has happened in the future, but I like your explanation dude.

      31. Totong August 5, 2013 at 11:12 am

        Betty White could be Sarah Connor in the future, like Arnold, they both got old but survivalist

        • FlipMode August 10, 2013 at 2:05 am

          Ya but unfortunately Sarah Connor dies from cancer, or they can just make even more plot holes!

      32. Roberto1979 August 29, 2013 at 9:26 am

        I think the rock is not such a bad idea, and i think you all gonna be suprised when he ‘s getting the part. The movie faster showed that a little. offcourse he wasn’t a terminator, but see this movie and you ‘l know what i mean. I think we should give him a chance. can figure somebody else also then offcourse arni or him. haha Dwayne is also good at imitating Arnie, like he did one time at the wwe, Okay this is just a funny thing and not a reason why he would be it but you can find this on youtube. Also think we have to comment after the movie is done. Because now it’ s just rumours. Also think they have to use Arnie as a human. Then he get captured, and they make him then the real killingmachine. Greetings from Holland and excuse me if my english is not that good.

      33. jip September 7, 2013 at 8:19 pm

        It’s Connor, ffs

      34. Ben September 11, 2013 at 1:18 am

        I am a huge fan of The Terminator series, and enjoyed all of them (even though nothing compares to the original). Arnold was great in the first 2 films.. but putting him in T5 is nothing more than a desperate attempt to connect a familiar face to the movie. If your a true fan of the series you’ll go see it whether he’s in it or not. Besides, Arnold’s role as the Terminator is tired at the point.. they need to cast someone new. In my opinion what T4 lacked was a ‘bad guy’ to give the movie/story a sense of urgency & uneasiness. Arnold created such an evil, intimidating and scary character in the original. If they are going to sucessfully re-boot the series AND give the core fans what they want, they need to create a new bad guy that’s comparable to the original. I’m not a fan of Dwayne Johnson or anything he has done. He certainly has the astetic to play a terminator.. but i’m not too sold on the idea otherwise. I guess we’ll see.

      35. Edwin September 28, 2013 at 12:15 am

        Let A’nold play John Connor with big scarf and everything. Like in the opening scene of T2. That would ewally be great

      36. k October 3, 2013 at 5:36 am

        My thoughts on t5 is a toss up depending on what happens. I would like to see it turned into a 4 to 5 hour movie were they go back in time on missions fighting other terminators to save different generations of conners, as well as diving into the the first second third and fourth terminators into certain parts for clues to finally make their way back to the current terminator movie the battle the new terminators. The it ends with a begining for a whole new chapter of time traveling to kill off different terminators inorder to save humanity.

      37. Joran October 4, 2013 at 12:45 pm

        As for me arnold Schwarzenegger and the rock all need to envolve in beclming both terminators

      38. Sean October 8, 2013 at 3:34 am

        If you watched the extras in T3 it already showed how the robots where made with Arnold’s face he was a coronal in the army

      39. justrob2 October 19, 2013 at 5:02 am

        t-800 vs t-800…..m79 grenade launcher./ mm1 grenade launcher./ Winchester 1887 with large-lever loop./Handheld GE M134 Minigun./Westinghouse M95A1s.
        i dont care whos face is on the steal, lets go!

        • justrob2 October 19, 2013 at 5:04 am

          my bad

      40. Paul Scotti October 20, 2013 at 1:44 pm

        I can watch 1 and 2 over and over again, 3 was absolutely foul… I hated what they did with it and i could have done alot better with it myself. Salvation was watchable, although i don’t think i would have cast bale as conner, worthington did his part perfect and young reece was a good wee add in too, i think the only way 5 could ever be one of the classics like 1 & 2 were, would be for someone to get down on their knee and cry if they have to while begging james cameron to get involved to save his creation

      41. G.O. October 21, 2013 at 9:07 pm

        Ugh… No Rock in Terminator please. I just don’t think he’d fit in anywhere. Don’t write around the actor either. What we need as said already is good story + good directing. Epic in setting the mood for a wicked terminator flick.

      42. Marc October 22, 2013 at 1:14 am

        Tom Hardy would make a great terminator. Anyone?

      43. heywood jablome October 24, 2013 at 4:54 am

        To the author of this article, Herner Klenthur, I would like to say thank you for your article and the opinions you express in said article. However, your sentence structure is horrible. You are writing a published article. Could you have had someone edit your piece before you published it? Perhaps someone with a command of the English language. Your writing style is the type of incoherent nonsense that pervades our society today. Please have someone check your grammar and syntax BEFORE you publish. Grammar aside, I enjoyed the article.

        • Herner Klenthur October 24, 2013 at 7:47 pm

          Thanks for the comment. As a fan site we dont have ‘editors’ and I am not a ‘journalist’. That said I respect that some people dont like to read what an average joe has to say and want more structured writing from ‘english lit’ types. Tks for your feedback.

        • Just Some Guy November 28, 2013 at 3:06 pm

          Speaking as one whose native tongue is English, I have to disagree with your assessment. I am a professional writer (and have been for over 25 years) and in my professional opinion, I think that what Herner wrote is quite readable, coherent, flows well, and certainly his writing did not deter me from understanding what he wanted to say. Simply put, I read and understood his article and not once was I distracted by how he wrote.

          This is a fan site. The most important thing about it is the exchange of ideas and a discussion. I do not mean to be critical of what you say as writing clearly is important but there is nothing wrong with Herner’s writing. It is essential that a writer have a voice and a style and I think Herner’s style lends itself well to the purpose of this site.

          For what it is worth, you have a sentence fragment in your comment, you have mixed tenses, and there are some logical inconsistencies in what you wrote. Perhaps you should look to an editor to correct your text.

        • Herner Klenthur November 30, 2013 at 4:34 pm

          Thanks for the comments. I am well aware I am not a great writer and yes English is my native language 😛 I am fanboy without a background in writing and some days it shows.

      44. Spartacus November 2, 2013 at 1:03 pm

        T1 was unique and original, T2 was a rare and really well done sequel. T3 was just a poor script, way too much focus on CGI and ‘big, and noisy scenes’, the whole movie was nothing more than a lead up to the final scene. T4 failed as it tried to cover too much ground and complicate a simple plot. The future of Terminator movies lies in returning to the ground covered by Linda Hamilton, who is really the star of T1 & T2, not Arnie. Her acting and delivery was awesome and made those two movies what they are. Her lines have become part of the English language. T4 should have taken the ‘cave’ scene and followed the rebels as they organised and fought back, but on the streets, not on huge sets in the desert. Something like Enemy At The Gates. The CGI industry has taken a hold on Hollywood and they are wrecking movies with it nowadays. Movies are much better when the script and acting is believable, when there is emotion portrayed, and we feel part of what is going on, CGI distances the audience so there is no immersive effect. 1950’s would work, an ageing guy, rebellious, survivalist, wise and old, predicting Armageddon and preparing for the cataclysm that he knows is coming. If they do it right it will be good, if they just go for the cheap money making scam it will be another waste of time.

      45. J0SEPH November 9, 2013 at 10:01 pm


      46. Nah, I really don’t like the idea of The Rock being Terminator. I mean come on, Arnold is the Terminator and that’s how everyone will remember him. Yes, he’s now older, but still in good shape and with a little make up they can make him look younger, it wouldn’t be the first time to do that to an actor in a movie. No offense to The Rock fans, I’m a fan of him as well, he has made some nice movies during these couple of years but I’m just simply not accustomed to watch him being the Terminator. But my point is that it’s not so important as who will be the Terminator as much as who will be the director of the movie and how are they going to write the plot. I would like better if someone could “revive” the whole franchise rather then fighting over Terminators role. Anyway, these are still rumors so let’s wait until 2015 and see what happens and how everything plays out.

      47. johnny kav November 11, 2013 at 11:43 pm

        Read the t2 infiltrator book,arnolds character is a ex cia agent now in his 50s (would work now) who meets the connors by chance, if they mixed a bit of the infiltrator book like they did with t4 it would work

      48. Lee November 12, 2013 at 11:43 am

        Look, there is no T5 without Arnie, he has to be the terminator in order to make it an authentic Terminator movie, nothing will pull in the crowds like Arnie back as the T800

      49. Doug Masters November 12, 2013 at 2:04 pm

        There is a lot of source material they can use, like the Books The John Connor Chronicles, where Arnolds character interacted with Sarah and John, very good books.

      50. COcko November 13, 2013 at 6:11 pm

        I think the story should start somewhere near the end of the war. Arnold a human meeting John and planning together the last attack. A lot of action between , a raw metal terminator (or more)chasing them, a great battle scene, with robots and humans , skynet sends the three terminators at once back in time, connor sends two terminators and Reese so that he can exist, more action more battle, A very nice victory scene where John Connor dies, and old wise Arnold remains as a symbol that the serie started with him and ends with him. AND LET IT BE > THE END FOR GOOD.
        Add some very interesting new designs, a set like in Cameron’s dark cloudy, black, metalic, world.
        The original soundtrack at the end with Arnold holding his machine gun on the shoulder, scouting the horizon….

      51. Jonathon Kim November 15, 2013 at 4:31 am

        FUCK NO!!!!!!
        DONT RUIN THIS FOR ME!!!! KEEP HIM OUT OF THIS MOVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      52. teddy1112 November 21, 2013 at 10:37 am

        not many people seem to remember this but in the original Terminator movie there was a second face to the Terminator. Franco Columbu was a T-101/T-800 whaterver ya wanna call it in the future flashback where he assaults the soldiers in the bunker with the plasma cannon. so why not make another face to “Arnold’s model” in T5? he is not an actor but how bout Phil Heath? he has a very intimidating presence when flexing at the Olympia and they also could bring back the freaky robot self repair sequences of the first movie. they should not reboot this story. they need to continue from T4’s timeline so it could be like 10 to 12 years after judgement day where T101/800’s are the norm and T1000 and TX are just preliminary software and not battle ready yet. i want them to base this movie off the dream sequences of the first 3 films. i want hordes of endoskeletons marching with Hks overhead and purple laser beams going off everywhere. and Arnold as William Candy is the only role that makes sense in this movie. they could get around the voice issue by having him wounded in the throat in battle or come down with some sickness that messes up his voice and when it heals he talks like regular Arnold. and later in the film for some comic relief a T-101/800 that looks like Arnold would use William Candy’s retarded voice for an assassination attempt and the good guys would know right away he is an imposter and take him out in some rediculous way for comic relief since the character was a joke to begin with.

      53. teddy1112 November 21, 2013 at 11:04 am

        oh some other things i wanted to comment on. it is totally true that Hollywood puts out sequels or reboots with shit scripts that are just an homage to the popularity of characters from earlier films. they need to stop paying homage to this and start paying homage to the details of the film that made it great in the first place. Terminator 1 had a ton of great stuff that needs to be implemented into T-5. like the freaky robot self repair. the eye panning and quick head turn when scanning. crushing the toy truck under foot while going to assassinate the wrong Sarah Connor. the pulsating soundtrack. most of the movie being shot at night to heighten the suspense. the fly on Arnold’s forehead right before he declares Fu%^ You A$$ Hole to the janitor. they need the small creepy details and darkness. bring back the fear and amazement of watching Terminator 1 or Predator when i was 8 years old COME ON!!

      54. teddy1112 November 21, 2013 at 11:25 am

        and Terminator 3 did this well. Mostow was well aware of the small dark details from part 1. the reason T3 is hated by fans even more so than T4 is not because the movie was bad they just couldn’t accept the idea of a woman as the Terminator. it just didn’t feel right to most of the fan base. i enjoyed part 3 so much i went and seen it in theaters 3 times opening weekend. it probably had something to do with the fact that i just broke up with my girlfriend who i was still living with at the time and sure as fu$% didn’t want to be home but it was still a great movie non the less. the only thing i didn’t like about T3 is they went a little over board with the jokes. if they want to have jokes in T5 they need to keep it to a minimum like T2 did.

      55. shauny November 29, 2013 at 10:46 am

        It is clear you guys gave a lot of thought to the Terminator movie plots, Now go outside and start living!! Get a real life away from make believe!

      56. wajid December 3, 2013 at 4:38 am

        Finish the t series with this movies let arnold act in this movie. Pls give the series an end

        • Marc Schneider December 10, 2013 at 9:12 pm

          Couldn’t agree more!

      57. kym December 8, 2013 at 7:56 pm

        I really think its a good idea for another terminator movie. Im a really big fan. But I want sara to come back. Even tho they “killed” her off, no one actually saw her die. Why dont they play the sara was “hiding out” thing? But some how lost john in the chaos and therefore had to end up fending for himself!

      58. korbinpheenix December 9, 2013 at 2:25 am

        Arnold couldn’t was a big-name and couldn’t act worth damn back then either but he stayed cold and calculated.. arguably and IMO his best-played role because there was no acting, just carrying out actions and following his mission. the reasons that you guys DIDNT like him in his other movies might actually play to his favor because hes physical and in your logical mind the ONLY person that can pull off the role. im not a fan of getting people that have a huge fanbase coming into a respected franchise but its really the only logical choice.. I just hope the studio plays it right and doesn’t fuck it up because honestly I kno rocks ears are ringin right now because he knows what we fear so I think he’ll do well if he has any empathy and is ANY fan of the terminator movies. if they can get him to just do shit with no expression or feeling, like Arnold did in T1, then he’ll be the Michael Myers of Cyborgs just like Arnold was able to be in the first movie back when I feel in love with the series and character.

      59. korbinpheenix December 9, 2013 at 2:26 am

        *omit ‘couldn’t’ after Arnold* copy and paste job hahah!

      60. Marc Schneider December 10, 2013 at 8:54 pm

        Of course Arnold Schwarzenegger should play the Terminator because he is the Terminator and without him there is no Terminator trademark. Hell will freeze to ice before I’ll accept anyone else in the role as the Terminator beside Arnold. A cyborg with an aging human tissue could account for an older looking Arnold, so the “age thing” doesn’t hold water, since Arnold is playing a machine which is as deadly and dangerous as before – just the outer tissue has “aged”. The new Terminator movie needs 1) a great and grand story/plot – just like T1 and T2 were great movies with great and grand stories 2) continuity – explaining where we are in the story, where we came from and where we are going 3) explaining how T-800 was created and why specifically was the T-800 chosen by Skynet 4) why particularly Arnold’s face became the “face” of the T-800 5) great actors and believable characters with depth – not just good looking models that have hardly left puberty, and 6) great action 7) great special effects and 8) an apocalyptic future war between man and machine with the same “dark” atmosphere as was depicted in T1 and T2. And 9) The Movie should also show us when Kyle Reese and the “bad” Arnold T-800 was sent back in time. Anything less than this and anything else than this is a waste of my time. The Terminator saga starts and ends with Arnie – otherwise the saga betrays the importance of Arnold himself and the fans of the Terminator movies. Just like Star Wars or the Lord of the Rings, the Terminator saga needs a beginning and an end and a sense of continuity throughout the whole story.

        A good twist to the story would be to include a human Arnold in Terminator 5 as the scientist who originally developed the T-800 series for Skynet, and then turned rouge when he realized what Skynet had become. Skynet sends a T-800 to destroy human Arnie (fearing that human Arnie would pass on secrets regarding T-800 to the human resistance), but human Arnie takes down a few T-800s with laser weapons, manages to reprogram a mechanical Arnie before human Arnie dies. The reprogrammed mechanical rouge Arnie cyborg T-800 survives for several decades, and thus ages, which explains the older tissue – which makes it possible for an aged Arnold Schwarzenegger to play the Terminator once again.

      61. billybob001 December 13, 2013 at 2:37 pm

        Terminator 4 pissed me off because they ignored the timeline set up by terminator 3 and they completely changed the John Connor character. Connor is supposed to be a hacker and computer genius. Christian Bale’s character was a brute that\ cannot believe even knew how to type.. I’m hoping T5 reboots the series and totally cleanses T4 from all memory. Let’s just all pretend that T4 never happened.

      62. dani December 15, 2013 at 6:23 am

        Terminator is my #1 favorite movie of all time!!!!! I couldn’t agree more with most of you… begging for a great script and director!!! And it would be great to see Linda Hamilton again…. a new Terminator movie as good as the first one or better is definitely on my bucket list. It will be unbearable if they screw this up again!!!! I believe a lot of us have some great ideas….the writers should LISTEN

      63. akaPABLO December 18, 2013 at 10:52 pm

        The rock is a perfect terminator. Armies made the series great but the guy is an old fart and should hang up his boots. Bale was a complete manic in the role of John possibly on the edge of a personal breakdown which showed on screen.
        I say the last termintor film bombed and Hollywood should come up with other script ideas instead of relying on the avengers and spin offs as shown with the flops of wolverine haha 2 and Thor hehe 2.

      64. lee December 20, 2013 at 12:14 am

        Please keep the rock out of this next film, I still want my money back and my memory erased for T4, I felt sick after watching that dog shizen.
        T5 shud be set in the future with time travel in it, a proper future war as seen in T1 AND T2, Arnold belongs in it as a human or when connor actually reprogrammes him, T5 Needs to be,better than T2 otherwise don’t even bother

        • FlipMode December 20, 2013 at 5:52 am

          You guys know there is no T5 now right? a week or so ago they announced they are rebooting it from T1…and da da dahhh the punch line: Arnold is in the reboot. It is to take place in the same timeline as T1, then followed by a new TV series, then T2, more series, then T3. The show will follow a different story but intersect. How-come none of you Terminator fans caught that???????????? My friend is not even a fan and he did! I know its complete BS, but on the other hand, they can remake it and fix all the inconsistencies created by T3 and T4. Personally I would have rather they just move on with T5, but oh well. Some of you have valid points about having Arnold, and others have valid about not having him. I will admit, that his lack of acting is actually what made him the perfect cyborg. However, I can not agree with them re-casting him, and the Rock…lame. Honestly, John Cena would be better at a terminator, Rock has too much of an acting style to pass off as a cyborg. (not saying Cena should do it, just a lose example)

        • FlipMode December 20, 2013 at 5:55 am

          I missed it, Emilia Clarke is to play Sarah Connor. Alan Taylor is directing the movie. Jason Clarke is being considered to play John Connor.

      65. Peter Price December 26, 2013 at 11:04 am

        i like the idea of arnold being a man and the machines taking a liking to his design to protect the connors, the 1940’s storyline needs to connec onarnolds connection with the connors in order to design the machine in order to protect the connors? for what purpose? a purpose of the connors finding intelligence within a computer system maybe? and if so why would arnold need to build a machine to protect them from such intelligence hmmm, as for the machine itself, i dont think it would need skin, id be more than just seeing a machine itself that was sent back and trying to keep itself undercover while trying to assassinate the connors, it would make perfect sense for skynet to continue sending a machine back into the past with the new idea of giving it skin, therefore arnolds skin creation has already been played since 1984, the future story needs to shoe how connor sent the terminator back through time in order to protect them, and talk about how skynet became so smart into liking human arnolds creation through its own intelligence hmmm thats my theory that would open the rest of the terminators series upto date, so i say no need for an actor for the 5th, just use a machine :) the 6th plot can probably talk about how skynet became so smart and what they did during the time after connor was in the bunker…or you could put that information into the 5th terminator aswell how the connors made skynet smart…the possibilities

      66. Oliver Gutierrez December 27, 2013 at 12:23 pm

        Special Terminators were given flesh atop their endo-skeleton cyborg counter part. This so they could go on missions & infiltrate the human resistance. It was also a necessary thing for time travel. Nothing dead/inorganic could go through the time machine bubble. Human tissue was a definite necessary thing. -OG

      67. Oliver Gutierrez December 27, 2013 at 1:08 pm

        I rather enjoyed all the Terminator films that have come out. Clearly the first two films are the template/standard for all future Terminator sequels to emulate. The first two films are also directed by the original director, James Cameron. I think any future Terminator films should be Cameron films too. I wasn’t crazy for T3 but I did like the female Terminator idea. And I wasn’t crazy for this John Connor either. And while the movie had a lot of action, it lacked substance (emotion like T2 brought) & a deeper plot. As for Salvation, I actually liked Christain Bale as John Connor. All the films build up this character as a tough military leader. Not just a computer hack. T2 John Connor was great. But he was also just a kid. T3 John, I was frustrated with. He’s a young adult already & still not this tough John Connor that Reese goes on about in T1. Chris Bale brought that in my opinion. The Sam Worthington hybrid Terminator was a distraction to me. They tried to make it work to feel sorry for him as Skynet’s latest experiment & create a love interest with characters not original to the classic story line of John, Sarah, Reese & The Terminator. I did like the young Reese in this film. And I liked the brief CGI of young Arnold Terminator to pay respect to where Terminator came from to begin with. Arnold Schwarzenegger! And while I liked certain elements of T3 & Salvation, they still all lacked what the original films brought to the table. I think ‘The Rock’ as THE Terminator is a bad idea. He could play a single Terminator with a small part in the movie but any more would just take away from the film & turn into a Dwayne Johnson movie. I like the idea of a human Arnold. But I can’t see him as a scientist. I can, however, see him as a military leader. That fits better. I can also see him as a Terminator in this new film too. We all know he’s old. But he’s still our Terminator!! -OG

      68. Dale Blevins (Bobby) December 29, 2013 at 10:01 pm

        Hello I’m Bobby And I’m A Huge Terminator Fan. I Have Loved Every Single Movie To Date So I Figure I’ll Love This One Too, I Agree And Disagree With Many Comments Here, In My Opinion The Rock Is A Mistake But Could Work, I Also Love The Arnold Survivalist/Human Idea, But Do Not Like The 40’s And 50’s Idea, I Think It Should Pick Up Either Right After T3 Or Right After Salvation, If They Choose To Go With Picking Up After T3 I Think They Should Use The Arnold Survivalist/Human Story Line And If They Choose To Pick Up After Salvation Then They Should Go With Explaining The Female Terminator Story Line. All And All Though, Whatever They Decide To End Up Doing I’m Sure I’ll Love It As I Have Loved All So Far, And I Would Also Be Glad To See More Movies To Come After This New One Too, In My Opinion A Terminator Movie Can Never Go Wrong…. :)

        Thanks For Reading My Thoughts On This Matter, And I Welcome All Yours….

      69. Xavious January 8, 2014 at 6:12 am

        Well as fan of the T series…I think that the idea of Arnold Schwarzenegger playing a human is great but also it could be a failed attempt. ..because even though he is old he can still get a good fighting scene with the new terminator. ..I mean he might be rekindled but I would like to see the original T-800 in action one last time …and the 50s era would be a horrible idea …the point is to get to the badass futurist war we saw flashes of during first 2 movies ….and Connor should still be Bale since he was introduced already in Salvation ….I think that a good movie needs original actors ..thanks for reading my opinion. ..
        PS….what ever happened to Robocop vs Terminator

      70. Kevin January 14, 2014 at 6:50 am

        I’ve been waiting a long time for this and now my say terminator 1,2 and 3 was awesome 3 is actually my favourite it’s where John and Kate get together but the massive gap between rise of the machines and salvation has always pissed me off it needs to be filled in and arnie getting John and Kate out of the bunker sounds great as a human though yes it should be called T4 the resistance begins and tell the ROCK to get back to wrestling cheers

      71. bailey January 18, 2014 at 11:56 am

        They should only focus on the future war and end it in 2 to 3 movies. No more time travel other than maybe showing kyle amd the original terminators going back. Im thinking genesis t800s and predecessors. And 6 science is in full swing plasma rifles time travel just becoming available and t1000s and just show the brutal war rated r

      72. Paradigm78 January 23, 2014 at 2:25 am

        Ok first off I am an avid follower of theTerminator series the first 2 movies being my inspiration, t-3 actually took the piss and ruined the franchise for me although had some ok ideas it was just piss poor and turned it into an almost borderline made for t.v sci-fi/comedy.. Salvation I thought actually managed to bring back some of the dignity, maturity and seriousness and the little homage to arnie showing the production line of T-800 was a nice nostalgic Touch. Now, again the movie has been put into different hands which again is taking it away from what salvation brought back.. I think this could quite possibly cripple and ruin the franchise totally, the idea of arnie being a human who the T-800 was based on I thought sounds like a good idea but does it really need arnie?? And as Much as I’m entertained by dwaine Johnson having him in the 5th instalment is a big no no.. It needs to be carefully studied and written to coincide where salvation left off and be set int eh future showing john Connor rise as the leader, obviously Reese being sent back plus the first terminator, and also as the future changes after each attempt show the second T-800 as well as T-1000 sent back and so on leading up to the inevitable end of The war , but as the future changed after each event of sky tea attempts on john Connors life the outcome may well
        Be different to the first story of john Connor leading the resistance to glory. That would be acceptable in my eyes as a fan.

      73. Mitch January 25, 2014 at 6:25 pm

        Honestly, I think that T5 should take place after T4. as far as the timeline I mean, t5 should include Kyle and John becoming closer, and john making Kyle understand that Kyle is johns father. I suppose to keep the whole action and blood and gore going there going to have to blow up another sky net base and some dramatic situation will have to have to happen to create a block so the movie can actually be a generic movie. Not trying to be cold hearted to the writers but I enjoy back story more then the random explosion and senseless shooting about. Anyway as far as making a movie where its set in the past up to now is senseless I think T5 needs to bring the story whole and end it. we don’t need a call of duty movie on our hands, see at the end of T5 john should send Kyle back and John should continue forward with his men. Honestly I don’t think T5 needs to be all crazy, just make a movie where John shows Kyle the world of war and shows him how to fight and survive then John can explain to Kyle the whole back story as him being his father. Then at the end of T5 Kyle goes back and the last scene should be him approaching Sarah in the bar in L.A in 84. Then boom that’s it. I really don’t feel a need to have to drag it out. we all know the full story just show us and end it. Thanks for reading! I hope I didn’t piss anyone off. Also the rock should not be in it, but if u look after T2 the franchise has lost money on both T3 and T4 hence the need to bring in big hitters. kbyeeee.

        • kirk January 26, 2014 at 10:57 pm

          Kyle was a natural survivor but I agree he and John should talk to each other in T5. There might be a problem with your suggested ending though, I don’t mean to be too critical but it would mean that Sarah and John’s survival was for nothing which might disappoint a lot of fans. Also John stopped the 1st terminator hunting him in his past so it wouldn’t make sense to me.

      74. ILOVE TERMINATOR March 25, 2014 at 2:53 pm

        Well after Teinator Salvation I wich tied up all loseends plus I finally saw a the Adult John Connor.
        Im only excited about the series I hear is upcpmimg

      75. ILOVE TERMINATOR March 25, 2014 at 3:06 pm

        I honestly think another Terminator movie is a bad Idea.I just think they should kill it before it dies.

      76. Luis Lopez Santander April 25, 2014 at 12:01 am

        creo que la idea de seguir en la linea del tiempo de T3, en que fueron rescatados jhon conor seria bueno ya que juntos empesarian la nueva trilogia, incluir en esta parte el viaje en el tiempo hacia 3 años atras hicia europa y america donde los 2 personajes tratan de reclutar y proteger a cientificos que en el futuro combatiran contra skynet. Seria interesante ver en las calles a pleno dia en londres, nueva york y japon combatir los NUEVOS TERMINATORS maquinas contra los personajes.

      77. nathan Garcia May 4, 2014 at 12:50 am

        Ok. I am a mega terminator fan with over 109 comics 6 novels and all of the moves. First of salvation was an amazing movie with a poor execution. Okay. Now genesis plot is stupid. Why intersect a movie that with a new plot instead of just finishing the storyline?

      78. Felix115 May 5, 2014 at 8:51 am

        I believe John Cena would be a perfect match for the role of Terminator. He looks quite massive, really tough, he can act serious enough, so I think he possesses all the qualities to make one believe there’s a metal endoskeleton underneath his flesh and skin. He’s underrated, not overrated like many haters say.

        • Cheezal May 6, 2014 at 5:42 am

          I honestly think the ultimate twist would be if John Connor the one we know isn’t actually the main threat to skynet.
          We now know his wife takes over… and thanks to John she has been filled on all the past history and the connections.

          The fact that Skynet only truly could put a face to what we know as John Connor,due to John himself telling Sam Worthington,who had been like a information scout to try and find out who he was..

          remember T1, the grid was smashed,so all records were lost,So all Skynet had were names of John,Sarah and if you add the names of the Lt’s from 3 ,those as well…

          The ultimate twist would be if John and the woman who takes over had a child that was John Snr’s son,,but born after he died.
          and name John…

          A way to confuse Skynet…? ,as we as yet don’t know When Reese was born,we just know a John the leader of the resistance sent him back…
          So he goes back with a pic of John’s grandmother in fact to get the outcome we now know as the first 4 movies…

      79. Mike Oxbigg May 19, 2014 at 1:07 pm

        You spelled ‘Connor’ wrong, Terminator experts.

        • Herner Klenthur May 19, 2014 at 1:41 pm

          Never said we were ‘experts. But thanks for catching it.

      80. graham May 23, 2014 at 8:30 pm

        good question on how to bring arnold back into it,as where it finnished in 3 he cant of been around as he would of been arrested with countless murder over a 20 year period with countless ctv pictures of these murders. also it was said that unless the battle chasie was covered in flesh they couldnt time travel but the last 2 terminators were liquid metal not an onze of flesh so how dud they manage to travel back and according to the 1st one they destroyed the time machine so anythings likely!

      81. Shane graef June 6, 2014 at 7:48 pm

        Just don’t care no matter what they do. Its over. I hate the rock, he sucks. The terminator is just done and dead. I liked part 1, 2 and 3. I liked the TV show. The last movie was unwatchable. Come on its over people.

      82. Aaron Holmes July 26, 2014 at 11:59 pm

        To be honest if it doesn’t even remotely lead or have direct involvement with the war I will be utterly disappointed, I’m so sick of directors who make a film and then turn back on themselves and not carry on where they left off. Let’s see what happens… I say give us the war otherwise NO ONE will care

        • ryan July 30, 2014 at 10:09 pm

          If Arnold is to return you should have the film begin after t2 because that’s when it started getting stupid. That’s how you save the series. And yes Arnold will work with special effects you won’t see his age.