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Walking Dead Season 4 : Blood War & New Leadership?

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Walking Dead Season 4 just debuted tonight and the strife is already showing amongst the survivors as two key characters start to show fractures in their relationship.

The new season which is set months after the end of Season 4 has seen the cast shooting in two new scenes. One is a the scene of a downed air plane and the other is some sort of military base which has us questioning whether we will see the Prison in Season 4.

The shows producers have said that the Prison will appear in Season 4 but with the obvious signs of Season 4 shooting at a military base with the Woodsbury survivors present we have to wonder how much of the Prison will be in Season 4.

We have been speculating for a long time on where Season 4 will take The Walking Dead and it seems it will be just as bloody as we expected with some pretty shocking conflict and twists.

If you don’t want to know a few tidbits of what MIGHT happen in Season 4 read no further. 

We do know that the Governor will return in a future season since his story is not over but the question is how much of him will see wee in Season 4.

The larger story it seems will focus on the inner strife between father and son as a blood war brews. We have been talking about Carl and Ricks relationship for a very long time after Season 3 ended with Carl not only murdering somebody in cold blood but also declaring that he thinks his father may not be the best leader for the group.

Carl ended Season 3  of The Walking Dead blaming his fathers actions for the death of many of the survivors including Shane and his mother. Robert Kirkman added more fuel to the fire recently when he made it clear that the relationship between Carl and Rick Grimes is going to get much worse. On the AMC blog he told a reader quote;

….I will say that the dynamic between Rick and Carl is going to be a central focus of the season, and it is going to change in some startling and interesting ways.

A blood war between father and son may very well be brewing in Walking Dead Season 4. But could it end in the death of one of the key characters? Robert Kirkman caused major waves online with fans when he said that Rick Grimes was far from safe in Walking Dead Season 4. Kirkman told fans;

We’ve been saying that no one is safe on this show, and I wouldn’t rule out seeing the death of Rick Grimes at almost any point. We really like to keep people guessing, and I could definitely see some interesting stories coming from that.

While Rick has been a pretty solid leader, he’s definitely made his share of mistakes. I think seeing Daryl or Maggie or Glenn picking up a larger leadership role in the group could pose some interesting story possibilities.

So you have Robert Kirkman building buzz by saying that the relationship between Rick and Carl will change in a startling way clearly indicating he will betray his father in Season 4. But would murder be in the cards? Could it be that Carl and Rick’s relationship could end in a deadly feud resulting in the death of Rick or Carl? Dont rule it out this would be a ratings bonanza for AMC with a shocking twist like this. Similar to how they unceremoniously killed off Andrea.

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The other interesting rumor is that Daryl will continue to evolve in Season 4 of The Walking Dead taking on a much more prominent role. His character was never in the graphic novels but Norman Reedus has made the character a fan favorite on the TV show. When rumors of his potential death in Season 3 fans literally threatened to riot!

The current speculation is that with conflict between Rick and Carl brewing Daryl will take on a leadership role and take over the group. Will it be a coup? Will Carl support Daryl in taking over the group’s leadership? This would be a pretty big step up for a character that was never in the graphic novel and wasnt even supposed to be in the show.

Reader Ryan spills the goods on Norman Reedus’s audition and how his character came to be;

I don’t know if you knew this or not, But Daryl was never a part of the Walking Dead, When Norman Reedus tried out for the role the directors made a special character for him, Daryl. Norman was originally supposed to be Merle.

I honestly could not even fathom Walking Dead without Norman Reedus as Daryl and there is little question that Season 4 will give us even more of him.

Are you excited for Season 4? Where do you think Kirkman and the shows producers will take it? Did you sign the petition to have Andrea return?

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      1. haraldhill May 20, 2013 at 1:20 am

        please dont kill rick, yes i do think daryl and rick should switch role and i believe Carl should be killed. like if carl starts murdering more people like shane or the govoner did on a run. but please dont kill rick, he is key character to the show, and 2nd fan fav. he started the show off with him and daryl should take over

        • Trey Lavely (@smaug_98) May 20, 2013 at 9:05 pm

          DO you even know The Walking Dead? This comment makes me sick. With all of your stupid opinions that don’t even make sense. Why do you want Carl to be killed or to kill a bunch of people. Carl is a great character, who is (probably) the last person of Rick’s family. He wouldn’t let Carl die no matter what. Of course Rick won’t die. He is the MAIN CHARACTER! Does he die in the comics? No. Will he die in the TV series? Probably not, and if he does it will be the end of the show. The Walking Dead’s story is based on the survival of Rick and his family and the dangers that they encounter and the people that they meet. Why do you want Daryl to take over. Rick is no longer “Psyco” and he himself doesn’t even want to be leader. Like in the comics, what makes Rick a good leader is that he doesn’t want to be a leader, so he really does what is best for him and his family which also saves everyone else from whatever he stops. WOW! If you are going to write a comment like that you should get some experience from the actual story of The Walking Dead, which is the comic books. If you haven’t read them yet, it may answer a lot of you questions about the future of The Walking Dead.

        • baudron May 20, 2013 at 9:52 pm

          Totally agree there is know way they can kill off Rick , I know they have said that they are not following the comic books to the letter, but killing Rick would be too far off story. It is Rick and his family that the story is all about without him it will just be a zombie series with know real centre to focus on

        • Tom August 24, 2013 at 8:27 am

          Dude you need to read those comics again. Rick totally wants to be the leader. He gets all butt hurt when Dale tells him to back down. And he doesn’t even give a shit about his group until after Lori and Judith die. Rick is way cooler in the comics the best character of course. But Robert Kirkman has said several times that “Rick will most likely die before I end the comic series.” Whoever said they should kill Carl is an idiot. The Walking Dead comics become Rick and Carl’s story after the Governor dies. I’m not saying they should or shouldn’t kill Rick off in the show, but hell no don’t kill Carl and hell no don’t kill Rick off unless they plan for the show to go on for more than 6 seasons. Also they shouldn’t ever kill Daryl off I know that’s a fanboy thing to say and I’m not saying “Kill Rick off and make the show about Daryl.” Daryl is just a really good character to have around he makes them a ton of money. They could have him be separated from Rick just so it doesn’t seem like they’re attached at the hip all the time. But I guarantee if they killed him off ratings would drop drastically and they could only do one more season. I’ve always loved Rick because read every comic as they came out (seriously I have each individual and the graphic novels) but when the show came out I thought Daryl was the coolest just because I liked Norman Reedus from Boondock Saints. The Daryl hype started awhile after season 2 it’s funny that no one liked him in season one they thought he was just a smelly redneck. Now he’s like TWD icon, fan favorite, and hearthrob for the ladies.

        • Dennis Francis October 14, 2013 at 4:08 am

          @Trey…. As much as i respect your opinion, you do not need to attack another reader for comments on THEIR opinion. Please keep your respect for others as well.

        • JuanG October 15, 2013 at 6:23 pm

          No need for insults people. All comments are just that. No opinions are sacred and no one holds the truth or the facts. I don’t want to see yet any of the main characters killed, but anyone posting that character A or B should buy the farm are just voicing their views, which are all valid. Insults are childish.

      2. Vikki May 20, 2013 at 10:08 am

        “Did you sign a petition to have Andrea return?”…. Ummm, no? Because she’s clearly deader than dead now. Anyone who wasted their time signing that sort of petition needs their heads checked.

        • Mand July 16, 2013 at 1:40 am

          Not so, we didn’t actually see her die, just heard a gunshot. Her friend that was with her at the time can sometimes “walk among walkers” without being attacked. Maybe she has a secret she may share with Andrea that could result in a death being faked ???

        • Jake August 24, 2013 at 8:05 am

          How the hell is Andrea going to come back are you people so high that you can’t see how that would never happen. She was bitten by a zombie on her shoulder right next to her neck!!! Wasteland surgery is not an option they would have to cut through her carotid artery to get all of the infected part off then she would just bleed out. You people are in crazy denial (of course you are Andrea fans which explains a lot her fans are just as dumb as she is). She’s F***ing dead. That means she can’t pass GO and she can’t collect $200. I mean what do you people think the story there is? The next season takes place four months after the season 3 finale and she was bit by a walker can you people do the math? How the hell can they bring her back they really messed up if that was there plan because they seriously would have to crap all over the story to do that what’s done is done. Just because they didn’t show the poor girl getting her head blown off? They made it pretty clear that was the only way that scenario would go. Do you think she escaped in time killed Milton then tore a big chunk of her skin off to make it look like a bite so she could get some attention? Then she told Michone she just faking and not to shoot her so every one would think she’s dead and then she will just come back later and everyone will be all happy she’s really not dead? All of this so she could get some attention and make people feel sorry for her and not be mad at the dumb bitch for not killing the Governor when she had the chance and saving several lives? Yeah I guess Andrea would totally do that.

      3. Ric May 20, 2013 at 11:57 am

        Carl should definately be killed off in Season 4. That arrogant little twerp has had it coming for a while and he is the only character that i actually dislike. I agree with Vikki, the petition to bring back Andrea is pointless. Whether it be in flashback scenes or otherwise, her character is dead and i can’t see how bringing her back will have any relevance to future story lines. Rick IS The Walking Dead as far as i’m concerned, kill off such a dominant character as him and the show just wont be the same.

        • Herner Klenthur
          Herner Klenthur May 20, 2013 at 12:04 pm

          interesting view. If they kill Carl that would definitely make Rick’s character even more complex. I think i like the idea

        • Trey Lavely (@smaug_98) May 20, 2013 at 9:25 pm

          How many people want Carl to be KILLED? It is so stupid. If Carl died Rick would probably kill himself. Carl is all that Rick has left. In the comics, Carl get his eye shot by Douglas while he was trying to shoot zombies away from him as he way being surrounded. All Rick did was wait for Carl to wake up from the coma. Some people on this site are just not sympathetic or empathetic. Get a sense of what would happen in reality if dead people took over the world. After your friends die and wife forced to die from c-section, and then your only child the only family member left DIES! Are you insane?

      4. Santiago May 20, 2013 at 5:02 pm

        Even when the show has been terrible Norman Reedus as Daryl was still a good, if only, reason to keep watching.

      5. Mārtiņš Dmitrijevs (@NavNormaals) May 20, 2013 at 5:04 pm

        Ok, Andrea is very dead. Petition is real WTF moment.
        Big question is The Governor’s path. I hope he’s dead…
        Aaaand… Enough Ricktatorship, let’s start Darylocraty!

        • Jay August 24, 2013 at 7:41 am

          It should be Daryl-o-cracy. Not Daryl-o-craty.

      6. teri1016 May 20, 2013 at 5:06 pm

        I hope they don’t kill Carl off, I think his character has so much potential because he is so young. It would be interesting to see how he grows up in this world. Rick’s character has gotten a bit annoying and if either of them die I’d rather it be him. Though I think they both should stay on the show.

      7. Brett Robinson May 20, 2013 at 5:07 pm

        You made a typo, “Carl ended Season 4 of The Walking Dead blaming his father’s actions for the death”…. Should be “Carl ended Season 3 of The Walking Dead blaming his father’s actions for the death”.

        • Herner Klenthur
          Herner Klenthur May 20, 2013 at 6:28 pm

          Tks Brett for letting me know nicely :)

      8. rebecca nollman May 20, 2013 at 5:11 pm

        it would be a wonderful plot twist but, as much as ILove Norman reedus… rick and Carl are great …I’d miss rick but would love to see Carl become as he is in the graphic novel… Daryl. is my reason for watching please don’t break our hearts and take him away

      9. sukkie May 20, 2013 at 5:25 pm

        yeah you can’t kill Rick nor Daryl that’s for sure ,but bringing back Andrea?? really you can’t do that either.Now as far as Carl goes well maybe he should get his in season 4 for what he did at the end of 3,but then again maybe Rick ought to just smack in the head a couple of time and tell him to suck it up!! I see in the futrue loosing Hershle, or one of the girls.NOT RICK,DARLY,CARL,GLENN

      10. BrideOfChucky May 20, 2013 at 5:29 pm

        I definitely think that they should kill off Carl in Season 4. It would be very interesting to see Rick try to deal with that, on top of all his other emotional baggage he’s been carrying around. Plus, Carl is kinda starting to get annoying.

        Also, Norman Reedus tweeted this article! :)

        • Mārtiņš Dmitrijevs (@NavNormaals) May 20, 2013 at 8:18 pm

          Thanks to Daryl ^^

        • killcarl February 10, 2014 at 6:05 am

          Kinda getting annoying??? He acts like such a douche bag its hard to even want to follow the show…what a horrible character totally over the top he needs to have his weapons taken away and his tongue cut out …JUST KILL HIM!! (it’ll make the show watchable again)

      11. Cim Runfors May 20, 2013 at 5:34 pm

        Out with Andrea. So boring.

        • emma June 7, 2013 at 7:44 pm

          Boring? Really?? She was the story line for half of season 3!!! The Governor used her to get them almost killed! She was the messenger for both sides, she was the neutral character that helped both sidesish. She was the instigator of this whole thing how do you think that she was boring??

      12. Tara May 20, 2013 at 5:43 pm

        More of Carl acting like a asshat? Great idea! That will boost ratings. I heard Norman reedus hurt his hand pistol whipping someone filming. I will hope till Oct it’s that twerp.

      13. Ava May 20, 2013 at 6:06 pm

        I love me some TWD, but I’m getting tired of shows that kill one (or more) of the lead characters for the sake of shock value or to prove that they can. It does not really make the show better. I want to enjoy the story of these survivors without the concern of one of them suddenly getting killed gnawing at me for the whole ep…. or the whole season. That makes for neither good storytelling or suspense. It just sucks. Killing off Rick would be a horrible decision.

        Killing off Andrea (even though hated her) was not a great decision either. They finally made her someone I could root for [props to Laurie Holden for they amazing job she did in "prey"] and then, after all that effort to redeem her, they killed her off in the most ridiculous, implausible, untrue to her character way. She really needed to take off both shoes and both socks to pick those pliers up? I can pick pliers up with my toes in a few seconds. Aside from that, she had one hand free by the time Milton got to her. This is Andrea, who has been killing walkers with a tiny knife for 3 seasons! She would have kicked walker Milton away until she had a shot with those pliers and she would have done her signature move and plunged them right into his eye. There is NO WAY he would have gotten the jump on her like that. No wonder it was off camera. Simply awful. And no one [initially] wanted her dead more than me. I feel that should would have also slashed Philip’s tires or disabled his truck in another way, after she left him for the walkers. Very sloppy, Kirkman.

        That being said, I can see the necessity of killing off Carl if he continues on this path he is on. Not for the shock value, but for the story line. In all likelihood, being a kid who thinks he knows everything, he could conceivably get himself into a situation that will prove otherwise – which he will realize too late. That should be enough to get him bitten or killed. But again, that would be a progression, not a sudden “time for Carl [or whomever] to shock the fans by dying horribly!”.

        Currently, they have plenty of Woodbury people to feed to the walkers or have killed by Philip and his band of Merry Men. They need to stop killing their cores or fans WILL start tuning out. When I think of all the deaths that happened over the 3 seasons, most of them make sense, but not all and that’s a problem. I would hate for this show to end up on jumptheshark while it’s still in its infancy, if at all.

        • Herner Klenthur
          Herner Klenthur May 20, 2013 at 6:30 pm

          great comment with lots of depth. I think the ultimate shock twist would be to have Carl side with The Governor and then end up being killed… by the governor. That would be a reckoning !

      14. Anya May 20, 2013 at 6:14 pm

        One correction, Norman never was meant to be Merle. He only tried out for the part of Merle but it was already taken by Rooker. Also I would hate to see Rick get killed off, the show is suppose to be centered around his adventures, it would change it too much to remove him. Besides Andrew has carried the weight of the show up until now and deserves to be recognized for it.

        • @Norman_Seanfan May 20, 2013 at 8:47 pm

          That isn’t what I have heard. They were having auditions for the parts, had him come in, then created a whole new character. That is what I have heard. Then Rooker got Merle. They made a good duo though, no?

      15. elsa sanders May 20, 2013 at 6:39 pm

        Carl is and has been on my nerves for sometime now ..they let him say and do whatever he wants it’s amazing to me that he has lasted this long..I mean how many times has he been told to stay put he never does ..off with his head lol

      16. @Norman_Seanfan May 20, 2013 at 9:00 pm

        In my opinion, Carl shouldn’t die. Is that boy too big for a beating?I’m telling you, he’s spoiled. SURE it’s the zombie apocalypse! Who cares? You still gotta keep a firm hand on the discipline. So do not kill Carl off, just let his dad finally see the kid is a turd.
        Andrea was never one I liked. To Ava, I too wanted her dead more than anything. Her and Shane. Anywho, Andrea cannot come back. EVER. It’d be stupid to try really. She’s dead and gone, end of discussion.
        Oh and one other thing…..

        DARYL SHOULD BE LEADER!!!! He knows how to hunt, he’s awesome, need I say ANYmore? Daryl might not have been a main character in Season 1, but he sure as heck is now. People love Norman. You can clearly see it on Twitter….

        Overall, I love The Walking Dead. Great show, keeps you on your toes a lot of the time. Also makes you want to scream at the characters cause their being idiots, in trouble, or putting an arrow between the eyes of a walker. I think that this show should go on for a very long while. Like CSI! IF you are going to kill characters off, kill them off slowly, not in bunches. Also, keep more action parts that involve suspense. Like for instance, Glenn(or someone) is going through somewhere, get cut off by some walkers, he’s stuck. Take through to the next episode. People will be on edge desperately WANTING to see the next episode. Keep building on suspense and keep the death toll a little lower. That’s my say on it. :)

      17. Facundo Aguirre May 20, 2013 at 10:16 pm

        @Trey Lavely

        Shut up dude, you obviously haven’t read the ORIGINAL story of the Walking Dead, where Rick Grimes is stripped of his leadership many times. As a comic reader, I am comfortable with this, still knowing that Rick is the essential character that makes the show The Walking Dead. I think the latter’s comment, as unrealistic as it sounds, could benefit Rick and Carl’s relationship if anything. Just because someone is put out of a place they’re comfortable of, doesn’t mean they will lose their influence.

      18. Azucena May 21, 2013 at 2:34 pm

        Lo que me gustaría es que no dejen a Carol al cuidado de Judith, porque seguramente terminará como Sophia. No me explico que hace aún en la serie!

      19. Laura Romina May 21, 2013 at 3:11 pm

        A pesar de que Daryl no está en el comic es el mejor personaje, pero como ya nos hemos dado cuenta, la serie es diferente al comics, allí una de las primeras en morir es Carol. Carl me encanta, el se volvió frío por lo que tuvo que vivir. Fue el, quien mató a su madre. Rick está un poco loco pero puede solucionarse. Ojalá Andrea no hubiera muerto.

      20. Pmedic May 24, 2013 at 11:51 am

        Carl DID NOT “murder” that kid in season 3. The kid was told to put the gun down and he didnt! Rather, he tried “handing” his weapon over, and unsure of his intensions Carl defended himself.

        • Siren May 25, 2013 at 5:24 am

          Actually, he did put his gun down. He had his hands up in the air and was surrendering. Carl shot him in cold blood, even Herschel sees it.

        • Vamps May 25, 2013 at 9:00 pm

          Yeah, I thought so too. I mean, the reasons Carl stated later about why he shot the kid were wrong. But, I think the action was right. I would have shot that kid, too, if I had been Carl. Not because I needed to prove myself in some way, but instead because handing over a weapon and dropping it are NOT the same things.

          He steadily refused to drop his gun, instead continually trying to hand it over to Carl who was not in a position to take it from him and still keep his own gun easily and steadily trained. That might not have been why Carl shot him, by Carl’s own admission, but it would be why *I* would definitely have shot that kid.

          It was the smart and safe choice to make, even if maybe not the moral one. He didn’t know that kid and had no idea what that kid’s intentions were, no way to gauge him by past behavior. All he knew was that that kid had been part of the group that attacked the prison and tried to kill everybody there. And now he’s refusing to let go of his weapon and drop it on the ground.

          He had no way of knowing that the kid wasn’t trying to just get Carl into a position where he could overpower him and gain control of Carl’s gun as well as his own and possibly use Carl a as a hostage to control the other two people there. And during a close-contact struggle anybody trying to shoot the kid would have to risk shooting Carl, too.

          Maybe that kid really didn’t have any intention of trying to get the better of Carl, maybe he really was trying to surrender. But he made a stupid move by not immediately dropping his gun and spending the ample time he was given to do so attempting to hand it over instead. Unfortunately, due to that stupid move he died. But, it was his own fault, as harsh as it might be to say it.

          The world has changed, giving people the benefit of the doubt just because of their age or situation is a good way to get killed when you live in a perpetual war zone where even the dead are out to kill you. Pretending that isn’t the case is tantamount to having a death wish.

          I admit, Carl later did give some reasons for why he acted the way that he did and those were not the right reasons for the action he took. But, that doesn’t make the action itself wrong. I think he did the smart thing, even if he did it for the wrong reasons.

          I can’t begrudge his actions, but I can begrudge his later-stated reasoning.

          The debate going on over it, though, does definitely raise the question of when something becomes murder and when it’s just simply self-defense or duty. Do the intentions behind the actions count, or does the situation itself overrule all else? And is there even a one-size-fits-all answer to that question?

      21. Vamps May 25, 2013 at 8:37 pm

        I didn’t even know that there was a petition to have Andrea return. I was ready for her to leave the show, though, so I don’t think I really want her to return, even if only as a zombie. I think she had a surprising but good send-off.

        I wouldn’t be shocked at all if Carl betrayed Rick. I might be surprised if he killed Rick, but not really too surprised. I can easily see Carl going that route if he stays on the emotional path he seemed to be on during s3 (especially by the end of the season). I do think it would be smart to back Daryl (or even Herschel) as the leader and have Rick either step down or be usurped as leader. I like Rick, I do, but if he’s going to continue to be emotionally and mentally unstable like he was throughout the majority of s3…then I don’t think he ought to be leader. Someone else stepping up at least until he can get himself together would be best. I don’t know if Carl would be backing someone else because he thinks it’s right or just to stick it to his dad whom he blames for a lot of the bad things that have happened, but it would be the right decision to make even if he ends up doing it for the wrong reasons.

        There’s definitely something not “right” with Carl, though, and I can easily see him going dark side.

        • BloodMoney June 5, 2013 at 6:50 am

          Actually by the end of the season Rick was stable as any of the others he stopped seeing shit and his mind was back to normal. Also Carl is a very good character I don’t see why you guys are hatting. Ready most of your guys comments sounds like i am readying gossip not very pleasurable.

      22. Carl May 28, 2013 at 9:13 am

        please don’t kill Rick he is the key character of this movie. I like him. :D

      23. Rebecca Schnaar (@rschnaar) May 28, 2013 at 11:48 am

        I don’t think Daryl is right to lead. I think he really compliments Rick and they work great as a team. I definitely do not think that Daryl would lead a coup against Rick. If anything, I hope Carl gets taken out, along with the baby.

        • BloodMoney June 5, 2013 at 6:52 am

          That is exactly what I think.

      24. kier-shane lapton May 28, 2013 at 10:53 pm

        carl should die andrea should of died the gorverner should have died but they couldn’t kill him off because they would not be enough episode for season 4

      25. kandi May 29, 2013 at 4:13 am

        I love twd, I wish they didnt kill off merle. I like daryl and rick. I have to say although phillip is evil he really adds to the show. Because in real life there would be someone like him. I do want to see how his character evolves, david morrissey is damn good!! And yes I am a fan

      26. Jorge Israel s. Castillo May 29, 2013 at 12:48 pm

        As a fan of Walking dead, I think Daryl “Norman Reedus” Should take the role as the groups leader for the mean time so that Rick can fix the issue between him and his son Carl. Since the group suddenly became large, having two leaders is not a bad idea. It’s like Daryl will be in charge of there well being protecting them both from the walkers and the governor.

      27. ANDREA June 1, 2013 at 9:42 pm

        Omg i am so excited a little bit of wee wee came out!

      28. Chris June 2, 2013 at 9:02 am

        The only person who will take over the group is CARL. The show has the potential to go on for years and years. I think in time Rick will die and Carl will then take over were is dad left off BUT that wont be next season or even the season after that. It will be like season 12, 13, 14… When Carl is older. Daryl is my favourite character just like most other people but he has more of a laid back role. He has too much respect for Rick and he wont just take over the group though i do believe we will see a lot more of him. Maybe the plan WAS to kill Daryl off last season but when the writers realised how much we loved his character they killed Mearl off instead?

      29. david deazley June 2, 2013 at 10:44 pm

        carl or rick to be killed off????? has to be carl I don’t think the show would be the same without rick hes the main man. don’t mind if he takes a step down as long as hes not killed off

      30. TWD Fan June 3, 2013 at 12:13 am

        Carl is s good character but always questioning Rick. Rick simply should put that d*mn Carl back to the line. In real life i don’t think i’ve seen that bad parent who just cannot get son/daughter to follow orders. So don’t kill Carl just make Rick realise what kind of kid he has. And if writers of TWD seem killing Carl a necessary thing there is Judith (Rick’s other kid if someone doesn’t know) that could potentially grow as substitute for Carl.

      31. RJ June 3, 2013 at 3:21 am

        There is no way they would kill Rick off. He is central to the story. Maybe I’m just hoping so because I’m a huge fan of Rick.
        Carl pisses me off to no end. I don’t think they should kill him off anytime soon at all! I would like to see him evolve as a character, especially as he ages. It would be very interesting to see how all these experiences shape him to a dark person or if he makes a breakthrough and realizes what he did was wrong. Regarding the latter, I highly doubt it. I think he will become quite ruthless and imagine how him and his father would butt heads if that were the case.
        I love Daryl, and I hope he gets more screen time! But I’m quite sad to see Andrea and Merle go.

        I’m still waiting for someone to survive a zombie bite! (I know, probably wistful thinking) but if someone did survive a bite, imagine how interesting that would be for the show. It’d add a lot of mystery and make you wonder.

      32. Kevin Shelton June 3, 2013 at 12:17 pm

        Someone did survive a bite…Hershel. Had to have his leg chopped off, but he survived the bite.

      33. Rickyl June 3, 2013 at 1:26 pm

        ‘If Rick Dies We Riot’

      34. spank bank June 11, 2013 at 1:17 am

        If I had to make a decision on Carl or rick I’d have to choose the governor he’s a waste long live the family

      35. Matt June 13, 2013 at 6:33 pm

        If there’s anything I want to see happen its Rick killing the governer in a one on one. He’s got it coming I want to see Rick make him beg.

      36. Rorybore June 15, 2013 at 3:03 pm

        I have not read the comic books…so don’t jump all over me please if anything I say is contradictory to what unfolds in the comic genre. Especially since the TV show does not have to follow the comic story to the letter. This is just the way I would like to see S4 unfold.

        Rick and his family have to survive. plain and simple. Their relationships and survival are central to the story — THAT is what we are supposed to care about. The “glue” shall we say. Carl shouldn’t die, but the lad needs a Time Out, big time. Rick should step aside as leader for a spell while he gets his kid in line….and oh…yes, perhaps take care of his Little Asskicker. His focus should be back on his family.
        Daryl *sigh*….absolutely I will stop watching if they kill him. He’s one of the most interesting characters to be on TV in a long, long time. And after losing Sofia and big brother Merle…..I suspect Daryl is going to go to a dark, dark place for awhile. Would love to see how Norman plays that. I cannot see Daryl betraying Rick — even if he is in the midst of a personal struggle…… Daryl knows loyalty. He’d be a reluctant leader; but he’d do it for Rick…and because as a character his growth has to be that he will eventually step up. Merle’s shadow is gone for good now. Hershel will be his moral compass perhaps?
        So there you have a nice little triangle/arc right there: Rick, the main “hero”, stepping back a bit and his inner good becoming clearer focus; Daryl – his perfect foil “ant-hero” dealing with all the tragedy in his life and the push/pull on his own nature (would love to see some flashbacks with Merle about their former life!), and then Carl: which way will this kid go? Basically good like his father? The reluctant hero/badass like Daryl…..or full on Governor?
        The show needs these 3 characters for a long time yet.
        Do not bring Andrea back. Done and Done. L
        Daryl/Carol romance? Ugh. He’s ever so much more interesting as Lone Wolf Survivor. I’d rather see Daryl exploring his darker side and coming out the stronger; than kissing Carol in the moonlight. Still…. that potent sexuality cannot be bridled forever. Honestly….sexiest character is not getting any? hhhmmmm….problematic. Geez, even Shane got it twice. Send Daryl on a hunt —– maybe he’ll find someone interesting hiding in the woods ;)

        Glenn and Maggie: every story needs some romance. carry on, as you were.

        In an interview, Norman said that the Walkers will be even more of a threat. Good. And lucky they have a whole buffet….I mean town, of survivors to illustrate the point. I agree with what one poster already said: don’t kill off main characters just for the shock value.

        and what the heck ever happened to that family that when their separate ways right before they rest of the group left for the Centre for Disease Control? where they at?

      37. A June 22, 2013 at 1:35 pm

        I hope they skip like a few years so the baby has developed a personality, so that Carl isn’t the only one he cares about. Then Carl can be killed without Rick killing himself.

      38. Jacob Anderson June 25, 2013 at 4:01 pm

        In reality they cant kill Rick off the show..he is a main character and the show is based off how he develops as a character and how he copes in this new apocalyptic world. With Caryl there maybe a possibility that Caryl dies but to me its highly doubtful. And Rick should remain leader like in pervious comments, he is no longer “psychotic”..and plus again the show isnt necessarily about his “family” its about him and how he survives..there fore he can not be killed off..Daryl is by default the 2nd leader in that group, he is Ricks wing man and wont be killed off for a few more seasons if at all..people who think caryl should die im sorry but thats dumb.. if you jsut read above the season its a focus on how there relationship gets worse so we know that neither one of them are gonna die at least till the season finale which even then its highly doubtful because they are both listed to be main characters

      39. Paul July 1, 2013 at 12:54 am

        Not interested in the show because it already killed off the interesting characters and the rest of them will be boring…..

      40. Stacey July 4, 2013 at 6:36 am

        Everyone’s going on about Andrea…What about Merl how sad was that and sooo sad for Daryl. Merl was so kick arse what a character ……

      41. Javad July 20, 2013 at 7:48 pm

        Hi. i really like this series and my favorite character is “Daryl” , i think he is really like a good person while every one think he is not. he is really lovely character :) and i love his face and his vast mind vice verse his brother

      42. Ben cook July 20, 2013 at 9:06 pm

        With Glenn and maggie engaged I’d love to see Glenn’s reaction if the governor did a hit and run at their wedding only killed maggie and Glenn knew she was pregnant

      43. Negans' Lucille August 2, 2013 at 3:46 am

        I wish this was more like the comics. An alive bad-ass Andrea is so much better than the droll useless dead one.
        Ach well, roll on Carls eye patch & machine gun wielding, they’ll probably dumb that down.
        Also, why did Judith survive? Nothing against little-ass-kicker but, It’s a very large part of Carls character arc when she died.
        TV show is okay, not a scratch on the orginal books :-(

      44. ReGi September 11, 2013 at 1:54 pm

        hell no! daryl is no leader! he should be killed off by the end of season 4.

      45. lollypop September 27, 2013 at 9:15 pm

        F**k that I think Daryl is the best along with rick Carl and the guys they found in the prison (which by the way shouldn’t have been killed of except for there leader duh

      46. bleeeeed September 29, 2013 at 5:07 am

        andrea was such a horny assshole

      47. Dry Beer October 14, 2013 at 2:52 am

        very nice…… amazing

      48. Shawn Payer October 14, 2013 at 3:27 am

        With the death of Andrea, a key survivor in the comics, and hinting at Rick’s death. Kirkman doesn’t seem to care about following the comics at all anymore, if he infact does kill Rick or Michonne, maybe he’ll rename the show The Walking Daryl?

        • Patrick Lubben
          Patrick Lubben October 14, 2013 at 11:25 am

          If they call it The Walking Daryl, i’ll stop watching…. Daryl is so overrated.

      49. Ross Killey October 14, 2013 at 3:34 am

        i dont think theyll kill rick but if they do might as well stop watching the show right?

        • Shawn Payer
          Shawn Payer October 14, 2013 at 3:38 am

          Unfortunately I think people would still watch because Daryl is the fan favourite. The piss off is Daryl is not even in the comic books….Rick,Andrea,Michonne and Carl are the 4 key survivors in the books.

      50. Dennis Francis October 14, 2013 at 4:12 am

        @Herner… You are the master at creating articles that get people so fueled. Unfortunately so many people are attacking each other for THEIR own opinion and/or objections.

      51. Igor Earl Hickey Kapslok October 14, 2013 at 5:17 pm

        It can’t just end after this season, there’s so much more that happens after the prison.

      52. Miumiu October 21, 2013 at 7:57 am

        Every one’s opinions and comments are interesting but no no on the Carl killing bonanza please :) Yes he’s annoying & disobeys & needs an ass kicking but the HUGE part everybody truly truly forgets is that he is STILL a kid, no matter what he’s seen or DONE. Kinda hard to battle with that bc he’s been forced to grow up so fast. Poor thing shot his Mother! What more could mess you up than that?! Also agree on the “team” that Rick & Daryl make. No off with their heads pls. Glenn taking on the Governor for killing Maggie?! Right on with that thought! Heart wrenching though. Great article & again, comments.

      53. Lorissa November 14, 2013 at 5:17 pm

        Don’t kill Carl I like hime

      54. molly hughes December 28, 2013 at 8:49 pm

        im talking to the dude for the third comment down. i know youve obviously read the comics but on the mid season finale of season four it looks to me as judith isnt dead and she is already a too major character in the storyline already despite her being 6 month old or whatever and i also think that tara saved judith. just my opinion nobody have a go at me please. thank you. xx

      55. molly hughes December 28, 2013 at 8:52 pm

        i also think that if they do kill rick the story should or wil carry on with carl and his storyline of surviving the apocalypse and he or someone else (preferbly daryl) would not take over ricks role but act as leader without themselves knowing it.