Underworld 5: New Generation, No Kate Beckinsale? No Thanks!

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Underworld 5: New Generation, No Kate Beckinsale? No Thanks!

Underworld 5 has a spiffy new name and if the name tells us anything it seems they may have passed on including the move pivotal character in the series, Selene. A few days ago Chris told you all that rumors are circulating that the new Underworld 5 film is ready to move ahead ( via BD ) and that the film has a brand new title ‘Underworld: Next Generation’.

To me this is clearly a play on the fact that the fifth film will focus now on Eve who was played by India Eisley in Underworld 4. This also means that Kate Beckinsale’s character will likely not be the focus of the fifth film as they try to cater to is a younger more box office hungry audience.

The Underworld franchise may have dumped Scott Speedman and gotten away with it but dropping Kate Beckinsale is as good as putting a stake in the franchise. Selene and Kate Beckinsale is the heart and soul of the vampire movie franchise and removing her character will make fans like me simply tune out.

You will recall this is not the first Underworld movie to not feature Kate Beckinsale’s character. Underworld Rise of the Lycans focused on the Romeo and Juliet love affair between Lucian and Sonja and saw Rhona Mitra take on the role of ass kicking death diva in latex.

Even despite the strength of doing a prequel that fans wanted and showing the origins story of the Lycans and the vampires the film lost its footing without Beckinsale. The film was the weakest of the bunch at the box office and if there is any doubt that Beckinsale played a part in that you need only look to the next film in the franchise Underworld 4 where Beckinsale returned. Not only was the film a smash hit at the box office bringing in the most money for the franchise yet it also introduced a new character angle that fans loved, the daughter of Selene and Michael’s Eve. No doubt aptly named for being the first of her kind.

The box office results proved that fans want more Beckinsale and have an appetite for more Underworld movies.

As one of the franchise fans I am all for more Underworld movies but if the only objective is to introduce a new spin on the characters to a new younger / trendy generation I will be happy to pass on the film.

The only thing worse than not bringing back Kate would be to have Beckinsale still playing Selene and Eve playing her troubled adolescent teenage daughter with lycan boy troubles ala Twilight. There are so many ways to do Underworld 5 wrong and I am having trouble thinking of a way to do it right.

My question for you is how do they do an Underworld 5 that makes sense and doesn’t simply just cash in on the franchise name and disappoint fans? Do they bring back Scott Speedman? Do they bring back Kate? Or am I completely off base and are they further ahead to dump Kate Beckinsale and kick start it in the future with Eve and a whole new cast of Lycans?

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      1. Wayne Pierson June 7, 2014 at 7:25 pm

        Underworld series was absolute crap anyway

        • bearmon2010 June 7, 2014 at 10:45 pm

          That’s fine. It is not for you.

        • jason June 13, 2014 at 6:15 am

          U just made yourself look silly why are u looking into a fifth movie then lol

        • marisa July 21, 2014 at 3:57 am

          Bring back all three. have it be a search for Michael with lots of drama and fighting in between. i won’t watch 5 if selene isn’t in it. that would be weird considering how they ended 4

      2. Eric June 7, 2014 at 8:12 pm

        They have to bring back Kate. Underworld wouldn’t be right without her. I love all the underworld movies, they made me fall in love with Selene. I must have more of that ending from the last film.

        • Alex Hann July 19, 2014 at 3:44 pm

          Yes bring back Kate also number 4 was great but if they don’t bring back Scott speedman I will be disappointed I understand why he wasn’t in 4 not a big role they didn’t want to pay a lot of money for just five minutes of footage with Scott speedmans character in it.

          And also there is plenty of story left number five could be the search for Michael and introduce eve to here father.

        • Rob July 20, 2014 at 3:55 am

          If they don’t bring back both Kate Beckinsale and Scott Speedman, my interest will not be revived.

      3. bearmon2010 June 7, 2014 at 10:45 pm

        Without her then director will fail anyway.

      4. grindhouse June 7, 2014 at 11:07 pm

        We need Kate Beckinsale to return as Selene and make the 5th film a a final installment.

        • grindhouse June 7, 2014 at 11:07 pm


      5. James June 8, 2014 at 3:12 am

        well they destroyed the resident evil franchise, might as well destroy underworld too!

        • Alex Hann July 19, 2014 at 3:47 pm

          Yeah they did destroy it with number 3 and 5. 4 did ok but sucked that she lost here powers hopefully the finale instalment will be great and end we’ll not a ending were they all die and earth is completely gone because than watching the complete set of movies would have been a waste of time

      6. dave June 8, 2014 at 3:55 am

        Kate you made the movies it shows your fans you are a monster for the movie please finish it for us

      7. Patrick June 9, 2014 at 12:24 pm

        They need Kate to continue as selene and be a parent to her daughter in the movie having a mother and daughter continue would be awesome

        • Debbie June 9, 2014 at 8:47 pm

          Need to bring Kate and Scott back that is how the last one ended with the hint that Michael was alive also

        • beto June 29, 2014 at 5:18 am

          I would agree on the mother and daughter thing

      8. jere ebneter June 11, 2014 at 6:26 am

        I think they bring back Kate, her daughter, and the Divergent dude who did a decent job in the last movie. they all go searching for Scott, who has no doubt lost his mind and is running amuck in the city. Michael Ealy tracks him down with Salene while Eve and the divergent dude romance it up during training, and bam, a new coven to build off of with Salene returning as, an elder with Scott, forming the UBL union bloodline coven. they are a threat to all covens, be it lycan, vampire, and how about new coven of species of Immortals bent on destruction of all covens,! Let the but whooping begin with some badasskicking in the end, which could send the franchise in some really cool ideas! UNDERWORLD is a great franchise of good ol sexy vampire werewolf movies! Bring them back! If you want meto write the script…..let me know!

        • Michael July 16, 2014 at 1:32 pm


      9. Jan June 12, 2014 at 2:18 am

        They need to bring back Kate and Scott, and then tie in the daughter for the end of the movie to carry on the torch if need be. I didn’t like the fact that they left Scott out in Underworld 4. I love Underworld. Please keep the franchise going!!!

      10. and June 12, 2014 at 2:27 am

        The ending of Underworld Awakening sums up what the next Underworld should be. Kate, Scott, India, and the new guy James helping bring back the vampire race to a new role with both vampires and licans hidden in the background but among the human race thriving. It would bring it back to the realistic aspect that has been slowly lost since the first one. That part, I think, we all love about these kinds of movies. That we can tell ourselves maybe this could be real. Or carry forward this new world involving all three coexisting and yet battling for each ones place in it as a free for all.

      11. and June 12, 2014 at 2:55 am

        Oh! And bring back Lucian! I love his character. It was well developed and acted, he was the sex appeal for the licans and with so much spent on Rise of the Licans it seems a waste to kill him off. He was the first to shift back and forth from human form, he injected himself with Michael’s blood, and yet he’s killed with, granted, a lot of silver nitrate bullets just like the other licans? I was so disappointed he hasn’t come back somehow as of yet.

      12. Kourtney June 13, 2014 at 4:53 pm

        They need to have both Kate and Scott. If not both at least Kate other wise they have no reason to make the 5th one

      13. mzhelluva June 13, 2014 at 5:18 pm

        The last firm left me unsatisfied I was looking for Selena love interest to show his face the whole movie. But all we got was he escaped…I love the underworld series. But they have to get it together.

      14. Lex Strang June 14, 2014 at 6:21 am

        one of the best franchises ever, there’s no need to get rid of Kate and Scott there still gorgeous and ageless its a ridiculous idea!?, and eve would be epic if she got Marcus bat wings shes suppose to be the most powerful ever in this world taking in shes more then twice Marcus strength, it would be cool too see them hunting down these advanced werewolf scientists on the run and smashing into there domains with Eve Selene and Michael just epic, and it wouldn’t hurt too make a t.v series if all else fails!?

      15. Brooklyn June 14, 2014 at 4:55 pm

        I think that they should do one more movie with Kate due to the fact on how they left off on 4. I want to see a family I want to see Michael Selene and Eve. I think a story line with them all will work perfectly and then end it with them passing the torch on to Eve. I mean you can’t just end 4 the way they did and then what wait another 12 year gap in the next film I don’t think i could watch it to be honest, I was in a battle with watching the 3rd but it was nice to see the start of the war but now I want more of Selene and Michael. And now they have a daughter I want to see the reaction from michael finding he has a daughter. I don’t want to jump again.

      16. Jamie D June 21, 2014 at 9:34 pm

        I want Underworld 5 BUT only if Kate is back to play Selene because she is basically the heart of the franchise and removing her is well…removing the heart and leaving the franchise for dead. I agree with the fact that there should be no teen drama and just focus on something that will go out with a bang to finish the series. I would have them finding Michael to begin with and then whatever else should happen, then at the end have a huge battle between the remaining vampires(with Selene and Michael maybe daughter) and the authorities that are aware the ‘infection’ is back or maybe the werewolves. That may suck but what I’m saying is something great to finish the franchise…

      17. Papi Chulo June 22, 2014 at 8:33 pm

        Well I won’t blame the producers or directors sometimes actors get tire or change their minds or have other commitments and won’t or can’t play they’re characters any more. But in my opinion they should try to get all the former actors together for a last movie Selene ,Michael, Eve, David the hall vamp and high bread family I’m sure the fans will love that and I’m sure they’ll be happy with that :-)

      18. Victor June 22, 2014 at 10:35 pm

        Sequel to the prequel… Anyone? Anyone?

        • Nightwing July 1, 2014 at 8:12 am


          They almost lost me forever with RotL. No Kate = no Underworld. Mark my words…if they make U5 without her, it will be a HUGE mistake. Complete box office flop.

      19. James June 25, 2014 at 5:26 pm

        I think they’ll have kate and scott in the next movie since 4 was mainly about finding mickael. They probly might even have a few people turned into hybrids wich would fall in with the title next generation.

      20. John A Mina June 25, 2014 at 8:11 pm

        I know they can put Kate in Under World 5, cause it will make the movie twice as good, believe it.

      21. Eric Morgan (@boggarthunter) June 28, 2014 at 8:08 am

        I love the Underworld series. It’s not the deep characters or complex plots that keep me coming back. No, it’s awesome vampires and werewolves done right. I want Beckinsale back as much as the next guy. That being said, if she refuses to come back screw it. Bruce Willis refused to come back for Ex3 over a pathetic money issue (he wanted $4mill for 4 days work instead of $3mill for 4 days work.) Nobody’s going to miss him. I’ll notice he’s not their, but if the script is good I won’t care. Same goes for Underworld 5. Eve searches for and finds Michael aka (hopefully Scott Speedman), they go on to kick some ass. As long as Vampires and Werewolves have an epic battle and Eve is there to save the day, that’s what I’ll be going to see. I might miss Selene if she’s not there, but I won’t cry over it. Underworld: Next Generation in IMAX 3D… Take my money please.

      22. donald jose' phillips July 3, 2014 at 4:04 pm

        Nt having Kate in the movie is like removing the seal of a very expensive french wine.so no please don’t.

      23. Zajcev July 3, 2014 at 6:19 pm

        It’s simple. Bring back Kate and Scott for the 5th movie or do not make one at all.

      24. Alex July 3, 2014 at 10:08 pm

        JHKate must come back along with Scott to properly finish the franchise. It is clear that neither of them are thrilled about coming back, but there is no point of doing it without them. The last I heard, the movie was gonna be called Underworld: Battle, where the hybrids mutate and become the enemy. *struggs* whom knows.
        It is easy to close the franchise out with a blockbuster. All they need to do is answer all the questions the other movies presented like why Amelia was not in control when things flipped off with Kraven in the first movie. And show how things transpire after Underworld: Awakening. Eve should not take center stage other then to show why Viktor did not want the species blended.
        The final chapter must fill us in.

      25. Nicole July 4, 2014 at 3:35 am

        My kids are the next generation to be bringing in the $$ for the next movie of Underworld. They want to see Selene search for Michael. Aged 13, 11 and 8 years old and they love underworld (except for the kissing according tothe 8yr old )

      26. Kyra Fennell July 8, 2014 at 11:23 am

        Kate must be back in it and it must be the final to wrap up the series. Also must have more on the mother daughter storyline

      27. klearlyc July 14, 2014 at 3:59 am

        I have only one suggestion to the producers/writers. It is called “Underworld.” Remember that when you go to draft the story and develop your characters. Bare that title in mind and revisit 1 and 2 then compare 4 against the first 2 and see where the thematic weak spots might be. I dare to suggest the only reason 4 did so well is solely due to one reason that being: Kate Beckinsale. Give the core character a strong purpose like Selene had but don’t take the root of the franchise out. There are plenty of potential bad guys left in the franchise or introduce us to new ones but this serial was never about vampire horror in and of itself nor is it a vampiric romance.

      28. Timmoth July 17, 2014 at 5:45 pm

        Bring Kate back bring Michael back, and just as importantly bring Danny McBride back.

      29. Holiday July 25, 2014 at 8:53 pm

        The underworld franchise should continue. Kate and Scott should return. Kate daughter should also return. They need to be new elders, new coven and new rules as well so the vampire race can continue. Kate should be an elder as well as Scott. They also need to be a leader of the lycan clan that will fight along side with vampires to resist the humans. The underworld franchise should continue as well leaving everything in Kate daughter Eve hands and many other elders as well. I really feel this underworld franchise can continue. We need more comics and tv shows